#22. Godzilla: King of the Monsters
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Godzilla: King of the Monsters gets exactly the review it deserves and not one ounce more, at least from Sonny, who hands it 2.5 stars out of 4 on the grounds that all a movie like this has to do is have big monsters punch each other real hard, and it does: they punch, they flatten buildings, and at the end the surviving kaiju literally bow to Godzilla, so the title checks out. He cops to being bored halfway through his own review, though he perks up considerably for a genuinely good digression on how the 1954 Gojira was a film about a society terrified of nuclear annihilation — the Bikini Atoll fishing-boat incident lightly fictionalized — and how the Legendary films have inverted that so completely that here a nuke is literally the instrument of Godzilla's salvation. JVL is harsher, landing at a C or C-minus: his complaint isn't a lack of intellectualizing but plain incompetence, a movie with no courage of its convictions that keeps flinching. He catalogs the sins — Ghidorah and the flying fortress changing scale from shot to shot, Vera Farmiga's eco-terrorist mom redeemed on the thinnest of pretexts, end-credit headlines that quietly vindicate the eco-terrorists (monster stool as an energy source, rainforests blooming in deserts), and one four-second shot of Millie Bobby Brown cresting a real grassy rise that's so lived-in it exposes how hollow everything around it is. He also insists Kyle Chandler is "a TV actor in a big screen movie" and that the submarine captain's damaged-missile-doors line is the most TV blind read he's ever seen. Vic gives it a low B, mostly because he was captivated by the bat-wing B-2-on-steroids flying command city, and admits he never knew Mothra was one of the good ones because moths are furry and have claws. The banter is a full spread: JVL's eBay order of a seized Lepin "Wizard World Castle Fort" arriving instead as the "Justice Magician Castle Fort" with a knockoff Gandalf minifig; a haircut and shoeshine update in which Sonny navigates a new barbershop and can't answer what number the shears should be; Vic's mortifying wave at the wrong two Asian men at the Prime Rib, plus a paired story about being mistaken for the cruise-ship entertainment on a Weekly Standard cruise; and a live taste test of Cincinnati's Grippos barbecue chips, sent by listener Miss Shark, which Sonny dismisses on principle ("barbecue potato chips are trash") while JVL declares them the best he's ever had and publicly bows down before the shark.
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Guest00:00:00Our planet will perish And so will we Unless we set Godzilla free Oh yeah, sure, let's bring him in for a beer
JVL00:00:25No, this time we join the fight
Vic00:00:30Sub-Beacon, a podcast on movies and pop culture hosted by Sonny Bunch, Jonathan V. Last HARF I started listening to this show right around when I started law school and I'm not sure I could have gotten through my first year without Sonny, Vic, JVL, and Gene. Five stars. Hey, that's nice.
Sonny00:01:31We're out here saving lives.
Vic00:01:33I hope he represents us pro bono in our defamation suit. I'm sure we'll have some coming. You know, actually, my friend, Steve Eustaris, has an uncle named Carlito and I was always trying to get him to ask a question so I could say, well, it's just Carlito's way. Yeah, and I would say it in the voice. Am I allowed to do the voice?
JVL00:01:51Can I do it with the voice? I can't do the voice. No. You know what? We're about to do a whole episode about Gojira, so you can do the Carlito's way voice. Carlito, man.
Vic00:01:59We should do it from Hokkaido. We should do it from the Hokkaido buffet. Anyway, okay, gentlemen, how are we? JVL, what's going on?
JVL00:02:08Well, I have had a minor bump in my life and I would like to share it with you. Oh, boy. Okay. So you will remember that Big Brick had won a suit in China against the fine entrepreneurs of the Leppin Corporation, the Leppin Group.
Sonny00:02:28Big Brick being big. The Lego Corporation.
JVL00:02:31Yes, the Lego Group. And when news of this hit because the authorities, the bent, the bent cops in China went and seized, I don't know, like a lot of Leppin bricks from the factories. And the minute this popped over the wire services, I jumped onto eBay and placed a couple orders because I figured some of them had already made it out into the distribution pipeline to the secondary market sellers and that I could could go ahead and grab it. And so I ordered for myself the Leppin Wizard World Castle Fort, which what is the Leppin Wizard World? Where is that? So it is. It is.
Vic00:03:12It's a large castle fort, which is a school for young wizards. Oh, really?
JVL00:03:18And I was very excited. But the truth is, I wasn't sure it was ever going to get here because sometimes on eBay, you may not know this. People will post to sell items that they don't actually have. What? I know. And so I was rolling the dice, saying that hopefully this person actually has the Leppin set. Anyway, I have the same problem on Craigslist.
Sonny00:03:38Wait, wait, wait, question, question. Is it an arbitrage thing where somebody will put a Leppin thing on American eBay, hoping that somebody will pay more than whatever the shelf cost in China is? No. Are you talking about just straight up theft, like people say? Saying like, "I have this, don't have it."
JVL00:04:00No, people saying, "I have this," and they don't have it, they think they can get it, but they don't want to go to the trouble of acquiring it, warehousing it, placing it in inventory until somebody has ... They want just-in-time delivery, essentially. And I came home the other day, and there were two gigantic packages, each weighing about 15 pounds. And when I opened it up, I found that I had not gotten what I ordered. I had ordered the Leppin set. The Leppin Wizard World Castle Fort, and instead, I got the Justice Magician Castle Fort, which you will remember from KL Routing's series, Justice Magician. Justice Magician.
Vic00:04:41I love Justice Magician. One of my favorite young adult fantasy series. Anyway, it's tremendous.
JVL00:04:48And you know, I ... The Chalice of Fire was very interesting. I am not going to complain. I'm going to be just ... I'm going to be perfectly happy with my Justice Magician
?00:04:58Castle Fort.
JVL00:04:59Castle Fort. And I cannot wait to build it. There is a bumble boar minifig who's got like a long gray beard and a wizard hat.
Vic00:05:09Kind of like Gandalf. A little bit. Yeah. A little bit like him. Interesting. Like a knockoff Gandalf. Interesting. He's essentially a knockoff Gandalf. Okay. Anyway, it's great. How are you boys? I'm doing fine. Sonny, people ... You know, people have been demanding. Listeners have been demanding. You got a haircut, Sonny. I should. Well, anyway, a haircut and a shoeshine update. But haircut first. That's the first thing I noticed. How's my new friend?
Sonny00:05:29How's my new friend? Shoeshine update. I don't have a shoeshine update because I basically have just been using the leather lotion on the shoes for the last few months. It puts the lotion in the basket. Because it's really a whole process and it's been okay. I need to do a proper shine, but that's all I got for that. I did get a haircut and it's funny. So last week or maybe the week before that, I had mentioned that my hairdresser had died, the person I'd been seeing for like 13 years. So I went to a barbershop in Alexandria somewhere and got a haircut. And it was very awkward because I had, it was like, explaining how to get my, what I want done to my hair is very hard because I haven't had to do that in a very long time. So the lady was like, "Do you want, what level should the shears be?" And I'm like, "I don't know what that means. I don't understand what you're saying." So it was a, it was- 74. It was, it was weird. It was awkward. But it turned out, it turned out okay. I think. Did you learn all about her life? No, we didn't. We didn't actually talk very much. It was very nice. She was very quiet for the most part. You know, we got a lot of emails about that and the best one I got was from a friend of
JVL00:06:42the show who I will not identify, who said that his trick is that for almost a decade, he has not gone to a barbershop where anybody speaks English.
Sonny00:06:50That's smart.
JVL00:06:52And so he just goes someplace where it's all in Spanish and he can just sit there.
Vic00:06:56Or English as a, Yeah. English as a second language.
Sonny00:06:59They'll still talk a lot of times. Yeah. Yeah. I'm always worried that they're talking about me though.
Vic00:07:03I don't want that. Like Seinfeldian. Yeah. You know, in the nail salon.
Sonny00:07:07Yeah, right. Exactly. George's father. Exactly. They're talking about him. No. So Haircut was great. We did, we did get a suggestion from one of our listeners to Shark Tank this. Ooh. I like that. You know, figure out if we're, if we're going to try and try and make a, try and make a business out of this. I think it would work. We want to, we want to, we, we want a hair, we want a barbershop. We want a barbershop where nobody talks to you, you just get your haircut, get out of there.
Vic00:07:31And no tipping. And no tips. Well, yeah. Here's, here's the awkward thing for me. Like you have a favorite barber, a go-to guy or girl when you walk in and sometimes that person is busy. Oh, right.
JVL00:07:41And says, well, I can take you right now. Yes. Yes. And you're, and there's a split moment of. And so you must think, well, one of these people is going to not vote for me then. What do you do when that happens to you? What is your, what is your move?
Vic00:07:52Okay. A lot of times I try not to have any eye contact, just wave and go right in the back. Like just pretend that, you know, go and sit in front of the chair, like, Hey, how are you? Boom. Don't linger. But yesterday I panicked. I was coming home from work. I lingered. And then it was, I just got locked in with, Hey, and he was sitting there bored. And I, I never went to this guy and, and then next thing, you know, he's talking to me about guns.
Sonny00:08:15Got a haircut from Steven Gutas.
Vic00:08:17Yeah. No, the exact opposite. But of course he also has, he's using the straight edge and, you know, and so it's like, Oh yeah. Oh, absolutely. Whatever you say. You know, when he's, you know, the, the straight, yeah, I mean, come on, you know, I don't want to get nicked. So that was it. Anyway.
Sonny00:08:32So you got a haircut too. So why did you, how did you say? I can't actually tell at all. I know.
Vic00:08:36I know. So you said, sure, you can do it. I'm a number two clip. I'm a number two clip. Yeah, I did fine. But I mean, I'm not a fussy, you know, in terms of my needs are, are like yours. You know, it's just like, eh, give me the, a little bit more on top though. I like a little bit more on top than you do. Okay. Uh, that's it. Okay. Thank you, Sonny. So what's going on in your world? A mildly embarrassing thing happened to me on Monday. I was going to a lunch with, uh, our colleague, Aaron Kliegman. Um, and we were meeting our, uh, our friends, uh, from Taiwan and we were at the prime rib. Uh, so we go in and the prime, it's a great restaurant. I go in. What was the average age of the customers? Oh, wait. About 70. And there's only like three tables filled.
Sonny00:09:13And in fact. Did you get the liver?
Vic00:09:15What? No. I almost did. In fact, Aaron got the liver. Oh. I got the London broil because you almost never see that on a menu anywhere. So I was curious. How do they do it? And the answer is very thinly cut and medium rare. It's the only way.
JVL00:09:29Right. For a London broil. That place. Hence it was cheap.
Vic00:09:33Is a steakhouse from like the 1915s. It is. It is. It is. Absolutely. Absolutely. So I walk in, but I, as soon as I walked in, I see these two Asian guys having lunch. I may, I went immediately over and said, Hey, how are you? And then as I got close, I realized it wasn't them. Oh. It was different. Two Asian men. And the word. You Filipinos can't tell anybody apart. I know. And so I, you know, number one, okay, embarrassing. And I just sort of stopped and I just kept on going. So I just walked past them after I did the wave and I just said, oh, let's go. Where did you wind up? In the kitchen? No. I mean, and of course our table was two, two tables over, like in a corner. So I can stare at them the entire time. And I mean, and they were clearly not a Taiwanese or they, I think that 99% sure they were Japanese and they just looked at me and then they went back to eating. And then the worst part is our friends do show up and then they're like, oh, I see what happened. They're like the only ones at the, at the dining room.
Sonny00:10:22I'm sure they, I'm sure they won't hold a grudge about that.
JVL00:10:25Thank God it was you and not your round eye colleague.
Vic00:10:28No, no. In fact, Kliegman was laughing his off.
JVL00:10:31Because of it would have been him who made this mistake.
Vic00:10:34You have cover. So that was really funny. And I said, okay, don't say anything to anybody. I'll save it for the show. But you know, this is, this has happened to me so I can, you know, turn it around. I mean, I, do you remember JVL on one of the, this has happened to you before? Oh, plenty of times. No, no. You do this all the time. No, on the other end. On the other end, on the weekly standard cruise, weekly standard cruise down in the Caribbean. I get in the elevator for the dinner service as you know, like whatever time it is where you have, you have to show up and it's packed because everybody goes to like the six or the eight, whatever it is. And we're packed. And I waved to some of our fellow cruisers and the woman says, oh, you were so fantastic last night. You know what the show and I go and immediately I hear the husband, like I see him like, you know, elbowing her. He's like, it's not him. It's not him. Oh, okay.
JVL00:11:20And I just smiled and I thought, oh, better that than thank you for taking care of our cabins.
Vic00:11:24Oh, well, that's not, you know, if it wasn't that it's the other one. And I turned around to the lady and I just like, wait a minute, do you think I would? She was very embarrassed, but we made all the whole elevator laughed, you know, and
Sonny00:11:34then another Vick won five votes that day by humor, just by, just by, just by jujitsu in this awkward moment into a communal bit of laughter.
Vic00:11:45One of the first times I remember, uh, I was having lunch in Tom's river at, uh, Chuck Chinese buffet, of course, called golden gate and golden gate. Yeah. Golden gate. It was very nice. It's less is more, right? It wasn't a big buffet, but it's like six different things, but they're all good because
Sonny00:11:59I, I, I almost prefer that that style of buffet.
Vic00:12:02Yeah. Because otherwise how good can it be when there's 20 or 30 things, right? When was the last time they checked up on it? So I go up there and this old, uh, white man says to me, oh, they let you out for lunch break.
?00:12:13Huh? Wow.
Vic00:12:15Yeah. And I just said, yeah, yeah, they do, you know, let me out of my car. Let me out of my cage, let me out of my cage next to the dogs. But uh, um, I should've, you know, I should've, I should've, I should've told him to try the ghost peppers. I said, you should try ghost peppers. It's really good for you. You know, maybe they'll get anaphylactic shock or maybe, or maybe he'd be breathing fire. Speaking of breathing fire over the weekend, that Godzilla king of the monsters took the top spot at the box office with $47 million followed by Aladdin at 42 million. And bringing up the rear was rocket man with $25 million. Enjoy it now, cause it's in third place. Um, no, it's holding, it's going to hold very well. I think it will hold well. Well, I'm working. I'm going to see it, uh, this weekend, uh, Godzilla, is that good or bad for Godzilla and the franchise?
Sonny00:13:08Bad. Bad. Very bad. That's a bad number.
JVL00:13:12Huge decline base coming from a huge decline.
Sonny00:13:15Yeah. It's, it's less than the first Godzilla movie or the 2000 Godzilla movie. Or Kong. It's less than Kong Skull Island. It's decline. If I were the studio, I would be very nervous because they have already shot Kong They only have one more. Or Godzilla. So, so.
JVL00:13:29Well, I knew that was going to be the next one. This is a small universe they've built. It's a four film universe.
Sonny00:13:32Yeah. Well, yeah. Yeah. I mean, that sounds about right, but I, they, I, if I'm, if I'm the studio, I'm looking at these numbers and I'm, I'm, uh, and I'm not thrilled. I'll put it that way. Uh, what is interesting is that Aladdin has already passed Godzilla on the daily numbers. It had, it had better grosses. Monday and Tuesday, um, and probably Wednesday cinematic achievement. It is. Well, I mean, it's much better than Godzilla, obviously, cause it's got the, it's got announced
JVL00:13:58God Jira.
Sonny00:13:59God. It's got, it's got Guy Ritchie doing his thing.
JVL00:14:03Uh, the, hey, you just did like running in little, running in place with your hands.
Sonny00:14:09It's I'm I'm it's too bad we don't have the Facebook video that would have been amazing. They would have seen me do it. I really liked that. Um, yeah, I, uh, I don't have it. I don't, I don't have a ton of thoughts on this other than it's obviously disappointing and uh, the, the studio must be, were you surprised, were you surprised at the numbers? Yeah, a little bit because I would think that this, oh, this is going to be good. It's got the three tracking. It's been tracking poorly the whole time they've, there's a reason they put out like 17 trailers and commercials for this movie is because the, the, the, the awareness is high and the interest is low. And that is always a bad, that's always a really bad combination. I mean, I don't think it's going to be. It, I, I am very curious to see what the X-Men numbers are like this weekend because that could be a disaster. I mean that could be like a 30 million, a $30 million opening. Yeah.
JVL00:15:00When, what did they feel? You know why? Cause it's terrible. No, no. Well it is. Why JVL? Because this culture in this country is afraid of powerful women.
Sonny00:15:12Accurate. Accurate. Did you know? I thought you were going to say they're afraid of Bryan Singer. Did you see the clip where, uh, Jennifer Lawrence. Playing Mysterio says this should be called the X-Women because they were always saving the men. It's the worst.
Vic00:15:26It's the worst, like tacked on, which is crazy because it's Jennifer Lawrence and she's really good.
Sonny00:15:31You know, it's, it's funny. Uh, a, uh, a guy on Twitter, uh, who has an, a locked account, so I won't say who it is, uh, noted that, that Jennifer Lawrence is much, much worse as mystique in these movies and Rebecca Romaine Stamos was like, wow, I would say harsh, I would say by, by a significant margin. I think Rebecca Romaine Stamos is much better in this role. She's asked to do less. It's a smaller role, but there, she, she has the physicality down pact pack, uh, down pat in a way that, uh, that Jennifer Lawrence has kind of like slept walked through this whole series. I don't, I don't think much of her in these movies and I like Jennifer Lawrence. Yeah. I guess you just.
JVL00:16:12I don't think I agree with that. I, I, I think these movies actually mystique is the central character. Of it. The, everything revolves around her because she is the sort of swing. She's the audience stand in and w we identify with her. Everything is about the temptation of mystique. Will she go one way or will she go another way? When does this take place? She does all that very well.
Sonny00:16:341992. Okay. I, I just have to disagree with you on that. I just don't think she's, I don't think she's that good. I think the character design has also taken a step backwards. So the last couple of movies, Jennifer Lawrence hasn't wanted to do like the full body makeup stuff. So she wears like the full mask almost. It's like the, the, the, the, uh, she isn't, is tired of being objectified. Well, obviously, obviously it's funny you say it takes place in 1992.
Vic00:16:56I figured that's when they stopped principal photography was in 1992 and they've been running, they've been running trailers for the last 20 years.
Sonny00:17:02I think it was 1992. It was, or was, when was X-Men apocalypse? That was in the eighties. Right? I guess. Cause it was because there's a scene where Return of the Jedi. Hold on.
JVL00:17:12Do you remember that? Because that movie was, do you have any desire to see Dark Phoenix? Sure. I mean, I don't know.
Sonny00:17:20You know, like morbid curiosity, Sonny X-Men apocalypse open to $65 million did not, it did not open poorly. It grossed 155 domestic, it grossed 540 million worldwide.
JVL00:17:33So it's not, how did that movie do 155 domestic?
Sonny00:17:36Uh, it's a great question cause it's terrible. I, it's legitimately one of the worst movies.
JVL00:17:42So I, I suspect that had to review that, uh, dark Phoenix is going to, in addition to being from what we can tell, maybe kind of a troubled production.
Sonny00:17:52It was. Yeah. Well they did it.
JVL00:17:55They did it, but they reshot the whole end of the film. Uh, it is, it is going to suffer for the sins of apocalypse. Yeah. Right. I mean, no, there is no, every, it is universally loathed. Nobody likes that movie. Uh, it's a bad, bad, bad. Yeah. Well, we'll talk, I mean, we can talk about it a little bit next week.
Sonny00:18:12I think we're going to talk about rocket man for the episode next week. I believe so. But, uh, I, we can, I've, I've reviewed. Excuse me. Dark Phoenix. My review will be up tomorrow at the free beacon. It is not, it is not positive.
Vic00:18:23Not rocket man. You didn't, you didn't, you're not. I still have not reviewed.
Sonny00:18:26I still haven't seen rocket man.
Vic00:18:27I gotta go see it. Well, I hope dark Phoenix is around next weekend. If it's still in theaters, we'll see it. So, uh, Sonny, uh, you did see Godzilla as well. I did see Godzilla king of the monsters. How about a, uh, a big boy review?
Sonny00:18:39Here's the thing about Godzilla king of the monsters. Uh, it's a movie with big monsters punching each other. So I'm a, there's you, you.
JVL00:18:48And then sad doses let them fight and, and the road road, Dan come in.
Vic00:18:54Oh, hold on, hold on. Moth run did it, please, please study, do your official review.
Sonny00:19:06It's got monsters punching each other. I like, this is legitimately, legitimately, this is the only thing that the movie had to do. They punch each other real hard. They punch each other real hard. They knocked down some buildings. Uh, there's some, some nuclear. Nuclear explosions, uh, and then, uh, then the, the monsters all bow to Godzilla at the end. Spoiler alert. He is in fact, king of the monsters.
JVL00:19:28I don't really have, I, I like, did they say that in the title Godzilla king of the, but,
Sonny00:19:33and then it turns out he is, he is actually king of the monsters because they bow, because
Vic00:19:37they bow to him at the end of the film, weren't sure when Muto's bowed, Muto bowed Godzilla
Sonny00:19:43stands in the, have you seen the movie JVL?
JVL00:19:46I in fact did see it.
Sonny00:19:47Yeah. Do you remember the scene at the end where the shot at the end where Godzilla is kind of standing in the middle and all the other Muto's actually curtsies, he actually bows, like literally he's spread his wings and end scene. Uh, so look, so what do I really need to get into the plot, which is actually pretty great. It has these awful eco terrorists, environmentalists. It's the one thing about it. Once again, the true villains in this world, environmentalists, they're trying to kill us all.
JVL00:20:19Uh, this is much more complicated than you think.
Sonny00:20:22Uh, we should have a long conversation about this. Are you going to get into the whole, these represent the forces of nature that we are unleashing upon ourselves?
JVL00:20:30Did you stay for the credits?
Sonny00:20:31Yeah, I will. Yeah.
JVL00:20:33I sat through the credits. How closely did you watch the credits?
Sonny00:20:35I didn't really watch the, all the, I didn't read all the headlines.
JVL00:20:37Is it all about, uh, the, you know, I don't want to interrupt, but I, I have a long digression for us to talk about.
Sonny00:20:45Well, you can, you can start because I'm, I'm, I'm already kind of bored talking about the movie. I liked it fine. I actually liked it. I actually enjoyed it because it is, it is, uh, it, as, as far as big spectacle goes, it is perfectly acceptable. I had a fine time. It's great.
JVL00:20:59Victorino. Yes. I know. Oh. I know what you liked best about this movie. Can I, can I? I'm so scared. Okay, go ahead. Your favorite thing about this movie was the giant bat wing style flying fortress. Super stealth city in the sky that also can maneuver like a fighter. Yes. Yes. Yes.
Vic00:21:26The beat, the B2 on steroids. Really?
JVL00:21:28It was kind of Avengers like it was kind of shield like wanted the GI Joe version of that to play with.
Vic00:21:35No, I was fascinated. I was fascinated by it. It seemed to be sort of like if earth is gone, they can all live there.
JVL00:21:42Right. When that happens, you can run from the cockpit to the, to the cargo hold where the cargo
Vic00:21:48holds are in like two seconds, three seconds, because it's right behind, you know, that is exactly right. One of the things I see this, well, not, no, not Godzilla, but that was one of the things. And it's like, how do you get from, you know, point a to point B so quickly, you know, speaking of which getting from point a to point B means spending more time waiting than moving. If you're sick of waiting to get where you're going, let boosted give you a lift boost its vehicle grade electric skateboards and scooters are the modern solution to your transportation woes. With a 22 mile range and max speeds of 24 miles per hour boosted is perfect for both running to the store and traveling across town designed to provide a luxurious experience. It's no wonder that boosted was one of time magazines, best inventions of 2018 with five options to pick from, including their new scooter, the boosted rev. There's a personal electric vehicle that's tailor-made for you starting at $61 a month with financing. There's no better time to change how you move. Now, and Sonny, uh, you know, this, uh, we have the boosted here in the office and a lot of our young ins in the office, the children, the children, they loved boosted and they took the scooter out and to our abandoned warehouse next door. And uh, and they were going nuts. And even those, there were some who was like their first time and they got the hang of it and they felt comfortable. And others you could tell were pros that they skate all the time or they were skate rats when they were kids.
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Vic00:23:22No. Very good. And they're going backwards. You can go forward. Uh, you can go in reverse and, and, and, and, and going pretty fast, like I said, 24 miles per hour right now, boosted is offering our listeners $75 off the purchase of an electric vehicle. When you use the code beacon at checkout, go to boosted boards.com and use the code beacon at checkout to get $75 off your vehicle. That's boosted boards.com. Promo code beacon at checkout for $75 off JVL. What did you think of Godzilla? King of the monsters.
Sonny00:23:59Wait, what did the, what did the audience surrogate think? What's your grade, Vic? Uh, wait, hold on. No, no. Okay. Guess what do you think his grade is? B minus.
JVL00:24:07Wow.
Vic00:24:08B. Okay. Yeah. But a low B, almost a B minus. Okay. Uh, there's only so much. Really? There's only so much of giant monsters, giant CGI monsters fighting. It's just not doing it for me. I much prefer something on the more human level, like John Wick. I think that, that had my attention much more than the giant monsters. Also, I, I didn't know Mothra was good. I always thought Mothra was bad.
JVL00:24:29Mothra was always good. Mothra, Mothra is.
Vic00:24:31'Cause I don't, I don't like moths. They're furry and they have claws. I mean, moths are terrible. Silence of the lambs. Okay. Uh, so that's what I, I went. I don't even know you anymore. Yeah. Who knows what I'm gonna be grading next. But uh, my, I went with, uh, my son and my nephew. Uh, and they both were kind of like, meh, you know, I mean, it's no, it's no end game, you know? So anyway, go ahead JVL.
JVL00:24:54There, there is a single moment in this movie which stood out to me. Uh, and it was a, when the, the little girl, the tween girl, whatever her name is, Maddie
Sonny00:25:08or whatever.
JVL00:25:09Billy, Billy, Millie Bobby Brown.
Sonny00:25:10Millie Bobby Brown. I have no, I have no idea what her character name is and I don't care. I don't know. Doesn't matter. I think it's Madison or something. Doesn't matter. Of course it is.
JVL00:25:17Let's change our things. Thank you. As she is leaving the underground bunker with the eco terrorists and making her way, coming up over the little, there's a little rise there. That four second scene is shot in the actual real world and it stands out from the entire rest of the production. Yes. In ways that are not good. Yeah.
Sonny00:25:40I'm sorry. You mean the shot where she's coming like out of the tunnel, out of like the sewer tunnel and she sees all of Boston?
JVL00:25:45Well, no, before she gets, before she. She gets over that rise. She sort of stumbles up over a little rise of like green. And that is like shot on location and it. You could tell. It really emphasizes, I would say in a way that before that the rest of it, you're like, oh, hey, this is all green screen work, but it's okay. It's not bad green screen work. All of a sudden that was a lived in moment and it made you realize how hollow the rest of the movie is.
Vic00:26:11But there were other scenes that they filmed that were not green screen. The island with the volcano that erupted.
Sonny00:26:17They're underwater. That underwater city. Oh, that was. That was that was on location. They actually went to Atlanta, Atlanta. So I read. I was an air pocket. I've seen a documentary about this. They're clearly in Atlantis.
JVL00:26:30So there there are things to like about it. I agree in general about the idea of spectacle. I really like the wild use of the osprey as a conveyance. Which can go thousands and thousands of miles without refueling, even though it's propeller driven aircraft. They refuel in the big mothership and can fly into Antarctica in the winter.
Sonny00:27:01Yeah, right. I don't see what's your problem. Quickly, too. This I don't understand what the problem here is.
JVL00:27:06And I you know what the truth like the flying city thing was great. It was great. That giant bat wing thing, yes, but this is a movie that doesn't have the courage of its own convictions. And I would say I think you see this at every level, one of which is the shifting scale of things like like this is a thing that happens where you see the scale of King Ghidorah in the ice is different from the scale of King Ghidorah in the wild, the scale of how large the city in the sky aircraft B-1 bomber is, is it just changes? Like they don't have a constant conception of how large is this thing and they maintain it across the film. The eco-terrorists, had you paid attention to the end, in the end, we are given what is essentially a long and I think very poorly constructed tease for Godzilla versus King Kong. Yes. By the way, and when that happens, you won't have any scale problems with King Kong and Godzilla.
Sonny00:28:16You mean the bit at the end? At the end with Charles Dance?
JVL00:28:19No, I mean when they're showing you all of the headlines. Oh, you mean the headlines. The headlines, yes.
Sonny00:28:23Yeah, no, I stopped trying to read them because they were going by. Very fast.
JVL00:28:28They were very fast, but it was a lot of news. But there's a lot of news. Some of it is about King Kong and about the monsters all coming to Skull Island and a lot of it was a reinforcement that the eco-terrorists were in fact right.
Sonny00:28:43Well, of course. No, this movie is very...
JVL00:28:46This is what I'm saying. So we have the eco-terrorists. So on the one hand, you see that these people are crazy, but then the movie can't stick with that. And instead of keeping the mom as the be crazy thing, which is kind of what they were doing at, which was a little... But that's a term of art. That's a cinematic... Feminists are really upset about that. Marking it down anyway. I don't know that we can say that.
Sonny00:29:11I don't know that we can say that. I don't know.
JVL00:29:12Okay, well, that is what they do with the mother figure, right? They turn... They turn her into a... Viriformiga.
Sonny00:29:20Viriformiga. Viriformiga.
JVL00:29:22But they can't stay with that. They redeem her in the end on the thinnest of pretexts. And then in the coda with all the headlines, it turns out that these things are bringing the planet back to balance. They're using... One of them is like monster stool. Turns out to be a gigantic energy source. Yes, I saw that. Another is that rainforests blooming in the middle of the desert after whoever, whoever walks through it. So, again, the movie just doesn't, like, you know, so which is it? What you're going to do? And even when they do the monsters punching each other so hard, Bruce, just their punch, I punch them hard. They will often then... You really want to see what's just about to happen. And they then cut and bring you down to the worm's eye levels on Treat Williams or whatever that idiot, the lead of this movie. Kyle Chandler. Kyle Chandler.
Sonny00:30:16You don't like Coach? Yeah, a friend of it. That guy... From Friday Night Lights?
JVL00:30:19That guy...
Sonny00:30:19Zero Dark Thirty?
JVL00:30:20Is a TV actor in a big screen movie. Oh, no. Boo. I like Kyle Chandler. Kyle Chandler's great. You know what? He is surrounded by genuine acting talent like Ken Watanabe and Brad Whitford. We would be his... Oh, Bradley Whitford is a TV actor. Oh, totally. Brad Whitford is a... Bradley Whitford is a... You have it reversed. Bradley versus Kyle. Absolutely. Bradley is a West Wing. West Wing. He's a fantastic character actor. Ugh. Fantastic. He's a fantastic character actor.
Sonny00:30:48He's fine. I mean, he's fine in this movie where he's asked to do one thing, be kind of a smarmy dick. It's fine. He's good at it.
JVL00:30:54How about Shang-Chi Yi? What did you think about Shang-Chi Yi? You know what I thought? Here's what I thought about both she and Brad Whitford. Time is turning all of us into monsters.
Vic00:31:04Wow. She looked fine?
JVL00:31:07No. She looks like a middle-aged mom.
Vic00:31:09She looks like she hasn't changed.
JVL00:31:10She looks like... No. She looks like she's like a 40-year-old mom and Brad Whitford looks like a grandpa and like... It's old. It's all very disconcerted. More child. But one more place where they don't have the courage of their convictions is none of the monsters die except for King Ghidorah. So we're shown Mothra killing Rodan, we think.
Vic00:31:33Yeah, and he came back.
JVL00:31:34Right? Right. And then Rodan comes back.
Vic00:31:36Well, Mothra dies.
JVL00:31:36We're shown Godzilla dying. Doesn't Mothra die? Well, but they just grew one. Why can't they grow... Right? Is Mothra dead? I don't know. I assume Mothra's going to come back.
Sonny00:31:46Any more than I...
Vic00:31:47So this is what I'm saying.
JVL00:31:49They always come back. I just... The movie doesn't want to... Like, it moves in a direction on something and then it just doesn't want to stick. Then pulls its punch. And I... It could have been better. No? Do you disagree?
Sonny00:32:03I mean, you are asking for an intellectualization of this movie that I don't think is necessarily...
JVL00:32:12No, I'm saying spend more time with the monster punching and less time with Treat Williams from TV running around.
Vic00:32:17Treat Williams!
JVL00:32:19You show coach respect. That moment on the submarine when the sub-captain comes in and says, We've got an even bigger problem. The whatever vortex from the hollow earth damaged the doors and we can't launch the missile. Oh, right. That is the most TV blind read I have ever seen in my life.
Sonny00:32:38Yeah, I agree that there's a lot of very mediocre acting in this. That's fine.
JVL00:32:43It's funny.
Sonny00:32:45We're talking about the intellectualization. Intellectualization of this. And it is worth considering the ways in which Godzilla has changed over the year. I mean, the original Godzilla, I watched it. I watched it recently. I wrote a piece about this for the Post. But the original Godzilla is very much a movie about fear of nuclear annihilation. It is a movie. You mean the original Godzilla from? 1954. The 1954 Toho Studios. Yes. Gojira. No kidding. It is a movie about a society. Do you have ideas? It is a movie about a society that is terrified of being eliminated in nuclear fire. And you see that in everything from the discussion of the way the... So the movie, the original movie has like this actually weirdly ripped from the headlines quality to it. There was a Japanese fishing ship that wandered into the fallout zone of the Bikini Atoll when they were doing H-bomb testing. And the guys got sick. Why? I think. One of them died. And so this was like, this was 10 years after, you know, Hiroshima and Nagasaki and people were freaking out. They're like, we're going to be living with this forever. And so you, that, a similar scene opens the original Godzilla. Godzilla comes up out of the water, destroys a fishing vessel and then destroys a bunch of other fishing vessels. Because he has been awakened by the H-bomb testing. So the, there is this kind of undercurrent or like frankly just current of nuclear paranoia in the film. That is totally justifiable on the behalf of the Japanese, you know. And, and the, the movie itself, the destruction, the firestorm scenes in Tokyo are again, like it is a movie about people who are terrified they're going to die at any time. And that has almost been inverted in these, these last two films, the 2014 Gareth Edwards one and this one. To the point that Godzilla is often shown as essentially a tool. Of the American military, or at least a partner with the American military. The, the, there's a, there's a great shot in the 2014 one. Ken Watanabe has a feeling, but he's on their side. Yeah, yeah. So there's a 2014, in the 2014 one, there's this great shot that we see from, from a top-down view of Godzilla swimming in the water with like the American Navy flanked around, like a carrier fleet. Task force, yeah. Whatever they call it, whatever the proper name for a U.S. task force is. Swimming around, like, like on the water around him. He's, Godzilla's swimming in the water, the ships are on the sides around him, and they're all going off to fight the Mutos that have attacked San Francisco. And then in this movie, you, you, there's literally a scene where Coach from TV says, or no, it's not Coach. Who is, is, who, who is it that says, this time we join the fight? Is it Coach? I can't remember. It wasn't, it wasn't Ken Watanabe. This time we're going to fight with him. No, I think Ken Watanabe is dead at this point. This time we fight. But speaking of Ken Watanabe, how do they get him? How do they get Godzilla back in the fight? They blow up a nuke next to him. They, like, nuclear, a nuclear, a nuclear weapon is a power of salvation in this film. I mean, it is like, it is, it is literally an inversion of the original. Now, look, I mean, Godzilla for, I mean, almost ever since the original film came out, Godzilla has been a good guy in various forms. Fighting to defeat other Mutos, you know, fighting to protect the people of Japan. There's a great special feature on the Criterion disc where a Japanese critic talks. About how the people of Japan cottoned to the idea of Godzilla almost immediately. That he was like, he became a mascot of sorts. He was a, he was a plush doll, you know, he was, he was like.
Vic00:36:29Wall-destroying cities.
Sonny00:36:29Right, right, exactly. I mean, it's like, there's this weird, there's this very weird tension there that I, that needs to be examined more deeply.
Vic00:36:37Criterion, Sonny, Criterion of which Godzilla?
Sonny00:36:39So, there's a Criterion disc of the original Godzilla, the 1954 one. And the Criterion channel actually has a bunch of the Godzilla movies. It has the original 1954 with all the special features and everything. But also they have like Godzilla versus Rodan, Godzilla versus, they have a bunch of like.
Vic00:36:56How about Godzilla with Matthew Broderick? Is that on the Criterion? That is not in the Criterion. That is not in the Criterion. Amazing performances in that movie, let me tell you.
Sonny00:37:04So anyway, I like, I am not opposed to intellectualizing this exactly. I, I, but I, I, I, I wish I had actually, I guess now I wish I had paid more attention to the, to the end credits. So I could have seen what exactly they were doing there. Because I am actually okay with making the environmentalists the good guy, or the, you know, the good bad guys here. It is, it is like, it is, it is just further proof that this is the only thing Hollywood knows how to do. Is, as, as like relatable bad guys, right? Is the environmentalists. Interstellar, Matt Damon, right?
Vic00:37:38Yeah. Yeah, that is right. Okay. Yeah, I guess.
JVL00:37:42Yeah, I guess. I mean, I have, I have. Sorry, I talked for a long time. No, no, no.
Vic00:37:47It was good because I don't have that much else to say about this.
JVL00:37:48I don't feel like I am asking for intellectualization, though. Like, I just wanted a more competent movie made. I mean, I have also, I would love it to have been a more, I would love to have an intellectualized Godzilla, frankly. I think that would be awesome. I would also be okay with a Godzilla that lets us live, just dispenses with the human element and lets us live just with the monsters. You know, like, have the people running around on the street and pointing, oh, no, Godzilla. And that would be fine with me.
Sonny00:38:20What if we had, like, a Mel Gibson apocalypto Godzilla movie that is just from the perspective of, like, a little baby Godzilla? Gadzuki.
JVL00:38:29There you go.
Vic00:38:30Gadzuki.
Sonny00:38:31Were you guys into Godzilla growing up?
Vic00:38:33When it was on, it was on, ready for this, JVL was on? Yes. Channel 29. Yes, Channel 29 in Philly on, like, Saturday or Sunday. Saturday afternoon. Yeah, no, and they would run the whole thing.
JVL00:38:44They would run all the different Godzillas. 29 had so many good shows. It was a large-scale Godzilla figure. I don't know if you remember this. With a fist. That shot off, right? That shot off the end.
Vic00:38:55Also, the tongue. Yes. Yes! But the switch always broke. Did you have that? Yes, and I had.
JVL00:39:02The doctor's kid had the giant Godzilla with the shootable fist.
Vic00:39:06Versus Shogun Warrior. Yeah, because you could get different Shogun Warriors. And I had, well, the one that was popular was Great Mazinga, which apparently in the Great Mazinga, he could fire off missiles from his hand.
JVL00:39:20Did they ever cross over Godzilla and Shogun Warriors? Because you would think. Because I think there was an Ultraman.
Sonny00:39:27I think there was a Godzilla Ultraman. And that is on the Criterion Channel, if you have the Criterion Channel. Wow. That's good.
Vic00:39:33It's right up there with, like, Battle of the Planets, you know, when these giant gods, robot-type gods come down or something like that. And that was also on Channel 29. Yeah.
JVL00:39:43You know, I also didn't.
Vic00:39:45I just, anyway.
Sonny00:39:46I thought this was a great show. I thought this movie. It has, I'm sorry, Godzilla versus Megalon.
Vic00:39:51Okay.
Sonny00:39:52I don't know. I don't know what Megalon is.
JVL00:39:54I thought King of the Monsters was lazy in a lot of places. You know, there were just things where we're given exposition that we don't need to be given. For instance, she's the queen of the monsters. I feel like he's on our side. I'm pretty sure he's one of the monsters. He's one of the bad monsters. How are all these people with their feelings about the monsters? I appreciate it because, you know, I don't know what's going on half the time. I would have much preferred it if they had been confused and watching. You know, don't tell us who the good, let us just watch and find out who the good monster is. We should be as surprised as the characters on the screen.
Sonny00:40:43I didn't, again, I didn't mind that so much because my expectations were high. My expectations were very low for this movie. There is a weird visual incoherence to the film. A friend of mine, Alan Zilberman, was like almost livid. He was like shaking with anger beside me because there's, you remember the shot in the movie? They're in Antarctica and Ghidorah eats the lady from the shape of water. And then you can't, you don't really see it happen.
JVL00:41:11No, no, I'm sorry. He eats the lady from Layer Cake.
Sonny00:41:14Eats the lady from Layer Cake?
JVL00:41:17She's the girlfriend, the mouthy girlfriend of the Duke in Layer Cake.
Sonny00:41:20Oh, yeah, yeah. The only...
JVL00:41:23Different actress though? Same actress?
Sonny00:41:24No, same actress. The only woman from Layer Cake I remember is Sienna Miller. Fair enough. But the... Factory girl. There's this shot where she's eaten and I like actually thought to myself, wait, did she just get eaten?
JVL00:41:41I can't quite tell what's happening. I didn't even notice that.
Sonny00:41:42And like 20 seconds later, Ken Watkins... Ken Watnabi is looking at like a tablet with her picture that says deceased under it because he had no idea what's going on in the movie. No, this happens all the time. That was crazy.
JVL00:41:56The pilots, the little tablets which showed all the airplane pilots.
Sonny00:42:00Yeah, the Independence Day aliens shot.
JVL00:42:03Yeah, because Rodan can fly faster than an F-22. Once he gets going.
Sonny00:42:08I mean, he was flying fast enough to destroy the city with the wake of his, you know, his fire. But that's just because he has fire coming out of it. No, but that was like a shockwave.
JVL00:42:17No, no, he trails fiery wind behind him.
Sonny00:42:20He's sucking people out of the air in a, in like a vortex. Like a vortex. A vortex.
JVL00:42:25It's also part of his magical fire. I did find myself at certain points early in the movie wondering how many calories per day these creatures would have to eat to sustain bodies with that level of mass and those sorts of expenditures of energy. But then we never really see them eating except for that moment. Also, you know what I like? When King Ghidorah chomps the electrical power substation and then flaps the wings out and shoots the lightning, that was a wonderful image. Yeah. It looked cool on screen.
Sonny00:43:04I would say this film is low on great images like that. Did you watch it?
JVL00:43:09Yes, it was low on iconic images.
Sonny00:43:11I watched bits and pieces of the, again, the Gareth Edwards one, the 2014 one, and that great. Halo jump where they're coming out of the sky with like the flares trailing behind them. And you, the camera is pulled back to like five miles away and you can just see the like trails of the flares coming down. There's nothing that even approaches that level of competence in this film.
JVL00:43:37No, it's not an especially well-made. This is what I was trying to get at when I said it wouldn't commit to things.
Sonny00:43:42I totally agree with you that this is not a great movie. My expectations were just. I was very low for it and it met those low expectations. So. I did like that the eco-terrorists all had uniforms.
Vic00:43:54Yes. Yeah. You gotta.
JVL00:43:56They were not just like a ragtag group of rebels. They had their own actual.
Sonny00:44:00Yeah, it was like a, it was, I mean, that guy's, what, he's supposed to be a British Special Forces guy. Well, former. Charles Dance. Apparently people thought that Charles Dance's character was supposed to be Tom Hiddleston's character from Kong Skull Island. Oh. Because he was also British Special Forces. There was some talk whether. He had, he had gone full rogue. Oh. Pro-Muto. But I don't, I don't think, I think they're different. I think they're different people. That's Tywin.
JVL00:44:24Victorino.
Sonny00:44:25That would have actually been interesting. That would have been an interesting thing they could have done with this movie.
Vic00:44:28Yeah, with more of an overarching thing. Victorino.
JVL00:44:31Yes, JVL. On the question of, should we kill the Mutos or let the Mutos out? Mm-hmm. Where would you have fallen?
Vic00:44:40I don't know. I guess kill them.
JVL00:44:42I don't know.
Vic00:44:43I mean, it's, and I wanted to see more of Muto, but it turns out Muto in this movie, was like Natalie Portman in Avengers Endgame. It was a very brief cameo.
JVL00:44:51Did you notice? It was just like, oh.
Vic00:44:52Well, the Muto is the, Muto is in the TV.
Sonny00:44:53Muto is just the name. Muto is the generic name. Oh, but what, you know the one I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, the like spider one. Yes. From the first film. Yes. Yeah, he's barely, he's barely.
JVL00:45:02He's barely in it. Yeah, no, but.
Sonny00:45:03There's like the weird Mastodon one. Yes. What about that?
JVL00:45:06No, but it's like, I actually like that creature design because it's, he looks like a Mastodon, but moves like a gorilla. Yeah. So the front legs are actually like arms. Yeah. Yeah, I thought that was kind of. I don't know, I mean, but. The turtle from the trailers is gone. The turtle.
Sonny00:45:20What is the name of the turtle character? Gamora? Something like that? I don't know, it's not Gamora.
JVL00:45:25Might be Gamora. Yeah, who's also a good in the Godzilla movies. Yes, so that was in the trailer and what happened? He's not there. There were a couple creatures who were in the trailers and didn't make the final cut.
Vic00:45:33But one of the big questions I had is, of course, yeah, they're among us, but then they produce so much waste. But again, as you mentioned, thank God.
JVL00:45:40That's going to be a giant energy source.
Vic00:45:42Oh, no, give me that, some of that monster poop. That's great. What about the radiation? Is basically, did Boston turn into Chernobyl? Is that what happens there? Because he's radiating. That's his energy, isn't it? That's that pure radiation?
Sonny00:45:55And San Francisco and Las Vegas are also like abandoned, right? And there's that shot in the film where the eco-terrorists are talking about the regeneration.
JVL00:46:05Yeah, it's great. Look how much better San Francisco is without people making billions and billions of dollars to power the U.S. economy. It's much better with plants. Less poop on the streets.
Vic00:46:13And making less billions and billions.
Sonny00:46:15And fewer AIDS needles. On the ground.
Vic00:46:18Less overpopulation. As you know, that was Vera Farmiga's concern, JVL, was the overpopulation.
Sonny00:46:24Somebody should write a book about how overpopulation isn't really that big a deal.
Vic00:46:27I heard somewhere, not actually happening.
JVL00:46:31Yeah, the whole thing was fine, I guess. I would have gone lower than B-. I would have gone to like C. Yeah, maybe C-. I gave it a B.
Sonny00:46:42Yeah, I don't know. 2.5 stars out of 4. Yeah, that's right.
Vic00:46:45A B is a 3, right? 3.0 is a B. Okay. Do you have any, no monster rankings, anything like that? No, you're fine. Do you have a monster ranking? I don't have a monster ranking.
JVL00:46:55You know, Victorino, let me ask you to do this, though. If you were going to rank of that subspecies of like Japanese low-budget type characters from our youth, I would actually go Shogun Warriors 1, Godzilla 2. And then Ultraman 3. Yeah, I could agree with that. Would you do the same? I'd love to be some Ultraman.
Vic00:47:27And again, if you go back and you can see it on YouTube, there's other show called Battle of the Planets. Was it Battle of the Planets? No, Battle of the Planets is different. That's with GeForce. But the one I was just talking about, and I can't even remember, with Goldar and Sylvar. And it's great. Just type in Goldar, Sylvar. And... Yeah. There you go. I will effort that. Okay. In terms of... What happened to Mechagodzilla? Is that going to come out in the future?
Sonny00:47:54Well, there's clearly going to be a Mechagodzilla, right?
JVL00:47:56Are you a pro Mechagodzilla? Yeah.
Sonny00:48:02More than Godzilla?
Vic00:48:04Give me a greater sign, lesser sign, equal sign for Mechagodzilla, Godzilla. Yeah, greater sign, Godzilla. Fine. I'll take the bait. You're pro more Mechagodzilla? Yeah, I love Mechagodzilla. I think Mechagodzilla, that's crazy stuff.
JVL00:48:14That's crazy stuff. The Space Giants.
Vic00:48:16Space Giants. The Space Giants. Thank you. The Space Giants. Okay, good. All right. We can move on. Let's move on. Any other thoughts? No, no more thoughts. We're good. We're good. This is going to be a short episode. Okay. Corrections, additions, shout outs. I've got two. One, I made a joke last week about how there were no Cubans in Scarface and listener John Papavaridis, Papavaridis, says Stephen Bauer, who played Manny, is in fact Cuban. He had changed his name. He was born Esteban Ernesto Echavarria and Bauer is his mother's maiden name. I thought he was Israeli. Because he was in an HBO movie called Sword of Gideon, which was about Munich before Spielberg's Munich, after the 72. So anyway, that's Stephen Bauer. And he's still 11. Stephen Bauer was also in Breaking Bad. He's the drug lord who gets killed in the, they all get poisoned or something like that. I don't know. I just watch clips on YouTube. And also, finally, a big shout out to listener Carmela Nicole, a Rogue Sharknado, for sending us grippos. She's the premier potato chip of Cincinnati since 1919. I told Carmela, or maybe she goes by Carm, I would, that we never had grippos. She goes by Shark. By Shark. You refer to her as Miss Shark. Miss Shark. And that we, I said. Show some respect for the Shark. This was because somebody was talking about a chip ranking. And then she said that grippos are the best. I said, I've never had grippos from Cincinnati. So how would I know? Or how would we know? So sure enough, she sent them over. And here we go. Ready for this? Chip test. Give me one.
JVL00:49:50I can have one chip. How many carbs could there be in one chip? How much for one chip?
Sonny00:49:54How much for one chip?
Vic00:49:55How much for one rib? That's fantastic. And I love barbecue spice. Sonny, you do not like barbecue potato chips.
Sonny00:50:02No, barbecue potato chips are trash. They're the trash. Holy God. Yeah, I know.
JVL00:50:06These are the best barbecue chips I've ever had in my life.
Vic00:50:08It's like a meal in itself. I don't even need anything. Oh, wow. There's an after. There's an after.
JVL00:50:13I bowed down before the shark. You're 100% right.
Vic00:50:15The heat comes after.
JVL00:50:17There's sweetness and heat.
Vic00:50:19And the heat comes after. Wait, I'm sorry. Shark.
JVL00:50:23Grippos also makes cheese popcorn. Shark. Oh, man. There you go.
Vic00:50:27I'm sitting right here, Carmela. Sitting right here. Also, so, I mean, we never had it and she sent it over. So, thank you so much. They're delicious. And also, in case anyone out there, our listeners, I don't know which is better, beluga or a central caviar. So, if you want to send over a tin from the Caspian Sea or the Black Sea, I don't know which is better. Which is better. Send it over.
JVL00:50:48Okay.
Vic00:50:49And I have to turn. My fingers are all covered in this barbecue dust. Excuse me.
JVL00:50:56Boy, that's really good.
Vic00:50:57It's delicious. That's all the time we're giving to this episode. Questions, comments, complaints, compliments, tweet us at Victorino Matus at Sonny Bunch. You're sure you're still out? You're not out there? Okay. Just checking. No. 100% no. Okay. It's so great. You guys should get off Twitter, too. But you have handlers that use. You appear. And people think you're around. You know what I do?
JVL00:51:17I just give out my Twitter login credentials to anybody who asks for it. And so, literally, if something pops up in my Twitter, it could be anybody. But you don't look. You're not looking. You're not.
Vic00:51:28I bet life is better. It's so much better. Why don't you try it? When I get up to your number of followers in 20 years, then I'll quit. Okay. Again, be sure to subscribe to us on iTunes or Google Play. Just type in SubBeacon on a podcast. We're there. Leave a review. Tell your friends. Until next time. We forgot to mention 75th anniversary of D-Day. Hey, guys. How you doing? Salute to the troops.
JVL00:51:59Yeah, okay. The troops. What are you doing? Hey, guys. How you doing?
Vic00:52:03Oh, look at this. A new watch. We saved it just in time. Oh, yeah.
Sonny00:52:07I guess I'm wearing it today. I didn't realize it. I'm sure it's fine. I'm sure it's fine. I'm sure it's fine.
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