#33. Good Boys and that Star Wars Trailer
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All three hosts saw Good Boys and all three loved it, which turns the main segment into something closer to a group memoir than a review. JVL gives it an A-plus-plus and admits he was on the verge of tears by the end, texting his best friend since second grade from the parking lot to say "this is the movie about us" — the Beanbag Boys of the film map directly onto Vic's childhood gang, the McDonald's Society, whose surviving members (George Katari, Steve Eustaris) got the same text from Vic. Sonny's official line is that it's "the gender-swapped Booksmart" that made three times as much money, but his real argument is that Good Boys earns its last ten minutes because the friendships feel true, whereas Booksmart struck him as an upper-middle-class liberal fantasia of childhood "gleaned from Tumblr diaries and Twitter threads"; he singles out Stephen Merchant's sex-doll enthusiast cameo, the two teenage girls as the movie's best characters, and the merciful 100-minute runtime. Vic, who went in skeptical about sixth-graders swearing that much, came out converted, laughed loudest at the frat-house drug purchase staged as a Boogie Nights homage, and declares himself officially in love with Midori Francis, whom he recognized as the Liberty Mutual girl. The other set piece is a live listen-along to the Rise of Skywalker trailer for JVL, who hadn't seen it: he notes approvingly that Disney is showing "all the good scenes from the good movies," announces "now we're in the bad movies, this is the bad place," and asks, as a matter of tactics, whether it is wise to fly that many Star Destroyers in tight formation given the Holdo maneuver. Sonny's only real excitement for the film is watching how spitefully J.J. Abrams retcons Rian Johnson. The opening is a group therapy session on compulsions — JVL finally threw away the beloved bottom rack from his dead Bosch dishwasher and needed it two weeks later, orders exactly one dish at every restaurant he frequents, and Vic confesses he averts his eyes from the number 13 on the treadmill, then strained his hip flexor the day he tried defying it.
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?00:00:01All I worry is all I care
Guest00:00:02We still don't know how to kiss Your parents have a CPR doll We can practice kissing on that Stop! You should never kiss someone without their permission May I kiss you? What do you like about me? You're sweet, you smell good You're a really pretty CPR doll I consent
Vic00:00:30Sub-Beacon is available on iTunes, Google Play, and Stitcher. Look at our podcasts and search for Sub-Beacon. You'll easily find us. Please subscribe, tell your friends, and leave a review. Gentlemen, how are we? JVL, welcome back! Hey boys, how are you? Doing great. What is going on with you? You were at the... You were at the...
JVL00:01:00You were at the beach! I was at the beach. We left 48 hours ahead of the hurricane. There is now a mandatory evacuation on my island. It's great.
Vic00:01:08Do they think it's going to... I mean, everyone thought it was going right into Florida and now it's skirting Florida and just running up the coast of Charleston and then up.
JVL00:01:18I would not be concerned except that my town got pasted last year by a storm in September and all of the dunes on the island are basically gone.
Vic00:01:29That was a direct hit.
JVL00:01:30Yeah, it was a direct hit. But all the natural defenses to a storm surge are essentially gone now. The berms. Right. And so I am slightly concerned. But you know, like, how bad could it be? That was a great show while I was gone, boys.
Vic00:01:45Oh, you mean with AEI's Matt Cottonetti? Blinded by the...
JVL00:01:51The American Enterprise Institutes. ...complaining about the movie about Bruce Springsteen not having enough U2 in it. It's 1987! Is that very... Sub-Beacon thing. Peak Sub-Beacon.
Vic00:02:04Yeah, exactly. That was very much me.
JVL00:02:06That was so great. And a B-minus?
Vic00:02:08Yeah, I know. It was bad. You must have hated this movie. Yeah, that was almost as bad as Widows.
Sonny00:02:13Hated it. Wow. It was funny. The guy who wrote the book that this movie is based on tweeted at me because I kept talking about how much I hated the movie. What did he say? It was... I remember what he said. It was after I was on the Hugh Hewitt show. And I was like, "The movie's not good. I don't like it." And the guy tweeted me and Hugh and was like, "Hugh, you should make up your mind for yourself." I was like, "Alright. Well, okay."
Vic00:02:38Calm down, guy. The guy had said something like, "It's clear that the writer has no heart and no soul." That means he's not wrong. I was gonna say, that was totally fair.
Sonny00:02:48He's not wrong. I didn't really have a comeback for that. I just let it go.
JVL00:02:53Who is Eleven? I was very interested in this TV show you guys were talking about. The one called Stranger Things? Yes. And have you seen the Stranger Things Lego set? Because it's the double world Lego set.
Vic00:03:04Yes.
JVL00:03:05I assume that Mike Mattis wants this.
Vic00:03:07I saw. No, we don't have it, but I saw the thing on AMA because they have recommendations because they know what you'd like, but I don't know how that works. So you could turn it upside down and how does it balance? Is there a thing or is it like-- It's flat on both sides.
JVL00:03:23You know what? I'm gonna get you the Eleven weird stuff.
Vic00:03:26Oh, good, good. The weird stuff. Weird stuff. Weird stuff. Weird stuff. Weird stuff three.
Sonny00:03:31Weirder stuffs. That's good.
Vic00:03:33That'll be good. I'd love to see that. That'll be good. I'd love to see that. Speaking of the hurricane, did you see the story about the cruise islands? No. So the cruise ship islands. Oh, yeah. Because they're all in the Bahamas.
JVL00:03:44Half Moon Cay. Half Moon Cay.
Vic00:03:46I assume they're literally just underwater. No, I don't think they were too bad. The big story was Disney, it turns out they left people on the island. Now, my understanding, because they have their own island, Castaway Cay, and my understanding is that- Isla Nubar. Isla Nubar. That's right. That's right. And then the other one. And that at the end of the day, when the ships leave, everybody leaves. It turns out there are people who actually live there year-round, like a handful of people. Caretakers. Can you imagine that? Caretakers. Yeah, the caretakers. Wild. Wild. But this time, they left, I don't know, it was like almost 100 people on the island. And there's a tropical storm thing. I see you're nodding, like you're assuming it's like Blue Lagoon. 100%. No, I was gonna say, I mean, but they said that there was plenty of food and water for them. I just imagine that they're- 50 men, 50 women. And then the- We must recreate a society. Nine months from now, the Disney population, anyway-
Sonny00:04:41I don't understand. Are these all Disney employees? Yeah.
Vic00:04:44Yeah, yeah. Disney employees. That they just leave on the island- But the storm went to the north. Subcontractor. Probably not actual Disney employees. The storm went to the north of them. So they said it was tropical storm level, not hurricane level. It was fine. Plus, I imagine all the Mickey Mouse ice cream bars. Mickey Mouse ice cream bars you can eat in a bunker.
JVL00:04:59So I had a moment of personal growth that I would like to share with you guys. Are you guys pack rats at all? What does that mean? Do you save stuff? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I might need this thing. I got it.
Vic00:05:16I'm getting better. I'm getting it better. I know people who are really bad about it.
JVL00:05:19I went to a conference and they gave out this notebook to take notes in and I didn't really use it, but I might need a notebook sometimes. I'm going to save it. It's definitely true. I never throw away a notebook unless it's full.
Sonny00:05:28That's crazy. I used to be very, very bad about this. Now I'm really only bad about this about books. Like I will, I basically refuse to get rid of books because whatever, what if you remember something that you read, you need to reference it.
Vic00:05:43The worst is, and it'll confirm all of your various, you know, OCD tendencies regarding pack being a pack rat is when you decide to finally get rid of it, something like a book, it'll turn out to be. You need that book like a week later. Oh, I need to, oh wait, it's gone now. So what's your situation with being a pack rat?
JVL00:06:02So you will recall the problem we had with my dishwasher when my beloved Bosch died. Oh, and, uh, and we got a new Bosch and it was not as quiet as it was supposed to, but also had a different configuration on the bottom rack. And I really loved the bottom rack on my old Bosch. Right. And so I kept it.
Sonny00:06:21Yes.
JVL00:06:22I remember this. I remember it. The Bosch dishwasher.
Sonny00:06:25Right. In my garage. I remember this moment of psychosis very well from the show. Because I thought to myself, I might need it.
JVL00:06:31What if I need the bottom rack, a really well engineered and well designed bottom rack for a Bosch dishwasher? When wouldn't you need it? So I'm going to keep it. Okay. And I left it in my garage for about a year. And it was one of these things that gnawed at me because I knew that it was psychosis. I knew this is a bad thing. Like you can't live like this. Just throw the, throw the forking Bosch rack away.
Sonny00:06:53This is not how humans live.
JVL00:06:54Right. So I threw it away. I threw it away about six weeks ago. And then. Sure enough. Two weeks later. We went down to the beach. And we have a very small place in a far away part of the North Carolina beach. And we have a Bosch there. And when I went in, the first thing I did, of course, was check on the dishwasher. And I opened it up. And someone who had rented our place out from us had gone and bent the tines in the bottom rack. Oh, yeah. To make it essentially unusable. Why? Why? Like, you can't fit stuff in there. Why would they do that? Just carelessness and idiocy. And clearly, they had not read the manual, which I leave out for the people who rent my place. I leave the Bosch manual out so they know how to properly load the dishwasher. And here, I have literally just thrown away the perfect replacement bottom rack for this thing. And now, what do I have to do? Like, order a new. Can you even buy a new bottom rack?
Sonny00:07:52You gotta spend like 200 bucks on a new one. Yeah.
JVL00:07:55Mm-hmm.
Sonny00:07:56So, the lesson here. Never throw anything away. Never throw anything away.
JVL00:07:59Never throw anything away. Never throw anything away.
Sonny00:08:01Yeah. It's like one of these. Garbage. It's like chopped. This is how.
JVL00:08:06This is the origin story for an episode of Hoarders.
Sonny00:08:07Yeah. This is like, in like 20 years, we'll have JVL Hoarders on TLC.
JVL00:08:11And it turns out that this sort of thing happens with almost all of my eccentricities. So, like, one of the things I have is, I may have said this to you guys, in every place I go out to eat, I only have one thing that I order there. What do you mean? There's only one thing I get at Chopped. There's only one thing I get at the Palm. Like there's only one dish. You don't vary it from. You don't get.
Sonny00:08:30But it's not the same thing at every restaurant. It's tailored to that restaurant. Right.
JVL00:08:33No. Right. So, it's a thing that I. Okay. And because my view is, like, I have a thing that I know I like. Why, if you find a thing you like, why would you try something different that you might
Vic00:08:40not like? Because you never know. Ah, you get over it. What's the worst that happens? You don't like it. But you never know.
Sonny00:08:46It could be something even more amazing. This is. I actually. I have a lot of sympathy for this point of view. Is to, like, try something new. Yeah.
JVL00:08:57So, for, like, seven years, I would go to Chopped once a week or once every two weeks. And I ordered the exact same thing. Wait.
Vic00:09:02Which way.
Guest00:09:03What would you get?
Vic00:09:04The Santa Fe salad. Ugh. Is there any meat in that? There's no murder meat in that. There's chicken. There's chicken. There's murder meat in that. And.
JVL00:09:12But I. But I hate myself for this. But it's humane murder meat. I literally. I do. It's one of the things that I hate most about myself. And then a couple years ago, I, like, I worked up all my willpower. I walked into Chopped and I ordered a different salad. And I hated it. Mm-hmm. And all it did, it was like the kale Caesar or something. Well, that was your mistake.
Sonny00:09:26It was just awful. Kale's disgusting.
JVL00:09:28Kale's the trash lettuce. But all it did was underscore that my original psychosis is ripe. Yeah. And, and so it winds up locking in all the, what I'm saying is my attempt to fix myself. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. As a human being. Mm-hmm.
Vic00:09:43Have basically all backfired. They're all backfiring. And they're just making me more screwed up than I was to start. I can, I can, I can relate to this. I can relate to this because, um, I have my own various OCD tendencies. I, I'm, I'm. I have a, I've at the moment, I have a real problem with numbers. You know, like I, if I'm on the, so I run a lot. I run three times. At the moment, you've always had a problem with numbers. Safe from science, baby. That's why I went to Georgetown. Uh, so I, you know, so I, I run, I run now, right? I'm on the treadmill and I run about, uh, four and a half miles, um, three times a week. So I'm trying to get, get healthy, have my blood test next week and everything. I've been doing this for six months though, where I upped it from like two miles to three to, to 5k level. That's great. Good. To 4.85. Uh, but I've, I've just weird like, oh, I, you know, 13 is a bad number. So if the, the number is going to be 13, don't look at the clock when it's 13, just watch the TV or something. And then I said, you know what though? This is completely ridiculous.
Sonny00:10:37I'm sorry.
Vic00:10:38What number? 13, 13 is a bad number.
Sonny00:10:40No, but what, what, what number on like the 13 minute mark, 13 miles, 13, 13 second mark
Vic00:10:47in every minute, anything, anything with the number 13.13 miles. 13 calories. 13 minutes, 13 seconds. Oh God forbid. Look away. Look away.
Sonny00:10:58Look away. So is it a thing where you can't actually see, you don't want to see the numbers? I don't want to see the number. So you just look away.
JVL00:11:04I said, okay. I think it's bad. This is literally the Jim Carrey movie. You're like, remember this numbers were like, it was like the number, the number 23, whatever it was.
Vic00:11:13Was it? So I said, you know what though? This is so ridiculous. Like you said, this is ridiculous. It's completely illogical. I look, I said, I'm, I'm looking, I'm going to look at a 13, you know, from time to time and I strain my hip flexor. So you know what? The number had the power.
Sonny00:11:25It did. It did. It broke. What was the number in the movie? It's called the number 23.
Vic00:11:30Yeah. There you go. So anyway, you know what? Stick to your side. We all have our psychosis and there's reasons for it.
JVL00:11:35They're there for reasons.
Vic00:11:36They're there to protect us. No, like, like, like there's a lot of hotel rooms like that don't have the number 13 on it and stuff like that. Floors. Floors.
JVL00:11:43Floors. But we all know 14 is 13. And airplanes, right? They, didn't they skip the F-13 and go right, right to the F?
Vic00:11:48There is no F-13. That's true. Uh, Sonny, how are you? Sonny. Now that we're done with the mental illness section. I feel much better. This is like group therapy today.
Sonny00:11:58Frankly, I feel much, much better about myself than I did, than I did like 10 minutes ago. Uh, I don't have any craziness in my life right now. Uh, I'm not, I'm not going slowly insane, uh, which is good. Um, no, I don't, I'm, I'm great. This is, this has been very overwhelming for me. I feel, I feel like a therapist who's like, I'm watching, so I'm watching Mindhunter right now on Netflix. The show that's about like the first FBI profiler. The comic book guy at my comic book shop was telling me about that this weekend. It's a, it's pretty good. I, I've watched, I watched the first five hours or so, uh, over the last couple of days. It's very good, but this is like what it is. This is kind of what it's like watching the show. It's like you have the straight laced FBI guy who sits there and he listens to these murderers talk about how they like cut people's heads off and then have sex with the faces. Uh, that is like, that is.
Vic00:12:51No, no, but you're going down a dark, going down a dark path, but all I want to do is hold on to dishwasher parts.
Sonny00:12:58It was like, it would be like the episode would be like, uh, so tell us a little bit about your childhood. And the guy would be like, well, you know, I, I always had a very specific way of loading the dishwasher. And one day the tines got bent and I couldn't replace it. So I found my mother and she said that I'd hadn't cleaned the dishes, right? So I cut, I cut off her arms and legs and I put her in the dishwasher and I washed her. That's that is. That's like what the show would be like. And we're, I feel like we're.
Vic00:13:23Why is Jonathan smiling? You have such a warm, glowing smile like he's genuinely has a warm, glowing smile.
Sonny00:13:29So I feel, I feel pretty good about myself. Wow. Wow.
Vic00:13:34Okay, good. I was gonna, I forgot to mention this cause I saw this in the news, uh, that, uh, Nicolas Cage has a new movie coming out called the color out of space and they say it's even crazier than Mandy. Is that possible? Right. I haven't even seen Mandy now. Uh, Mandy's great. Yeah. You love it. What is this thing? Why is he covered in blood?
Sonny00:13:51Well, he's, he's, his, his wife has been murdered. Well, I can't remember exactly at what point he's covered with blood if that, if that's then or later, but, uh, he, he, the, the, the, the titular Mandy, uh, is murdered like halfway through and then he has to, he goes on a quest for revenge. Oh, okay. It has a classic Nicolas Cage that it's very, it's very, it's, I mean, it's a, it's a very weird movie. It's a very, very weird movie and it won't be to everybody's tastes.
JVL00:14:18I like it a lot.
Sonny00:14:20I like it a lot. Uh, and it has some great, uh, small bit performances like for instance, Bill Duke. Oh yeah. Uh, is, is in it. Oh, Bill Duke! Yeah. As a, yeah, he's, he's, he's still around, he's still doing, doing work.
Vic00:14:32The color out of space I guess is H.P. Lovecraft. The color out of space. A meteor lands on this guy's house and then he gets cra- and he, and he crazy. Gets crazed back. Yeah. And who better to cast?
JVL00:14:42Does he turn a, does he have like tentacle arms?
Sonny00:14:43And screams.
JVL00:14:44I hate H.P. Lovecraft.
Sonny00:14:46Have we ever, have we, I am not a Lovecraft fan at all. I tried to read a collection of his shorts. I mean, I read a collection of his short stories, I don't know, five or six years ago. And every single one of them has a passage that is something like the man gazed upon the unutterable horror with his skin crawling and the shapes were coming out of the space, but he couldn't describe them because they were so evil and horrific. And I was like, well, that's a cheat. That is a cheat. That is a cheat. It's a cheat. Anytime, anytime you as the writer say the thing is indescribable, you are failing as a writer because that's literally your only job is to describe to me the thing that is happening. And every Lovecraft was like this. It was it was like, you know, some guy comes across some unutterable horror and it's like, well, OK, well, maybe utter it. So I know what it is. Yeah.
Vic00:15:31Yeah. Yeah. No, absolutely. And not to get all literary here because I rarely read, but I've been reading for several years Pete Hamill's memoir, A Drinking Life. And and he talked about it for several years because I keep getting interrupted by work. But he was talking about as a kid. He had growing up in, you know, in 1940s Brooklyn and then and, you know, in the in the mean streets and stuff and these Irish neighborhoods. But he would escape to the library and he talked about discovering, you know, all the great authors, including, you know, Charles Dickens and even Rudyard Kipling and stuff. And he was talking about Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. And he has an excerpt from Dr. Jekyll, Mr. Hyde and the transformation and how the writing of that. So it was so gripped him because he able to and he didn't say, oh, I can't describe how he did. You know what I mean? He just describes it. And it's very powerful. So I wouldn't know.
JVL00:16:22I didn't read that book.
Vic00:16:23But anyway, I lost my transition. How are you, Victorino? Have you been in the hip flexor? The hip flexor is, you know, it's a thing, but it's getting better.
Sonny00:16:32So I'm sorry. I missed that. Did you say you fell off the treadmill? No, I didn't fall off the treadmill. It just I aggravated it. You so you kind of misstepped because you didn't want to look at the 13 something like that.
JVL00:16:43And it's not because he was looking at the 13 seconds. He was staring and looking at it at the indescribable horror.
Sonny00:16:49The indescribable horror of the straight one and the curved three. But it wasn't curved. It was digital.
Vic00:16:55And it did. And you know what? You know what? I'm just looking at the clock right now. We better be done by 1013. I'm telling you right now. It's 928. Okay. So anyway, I'm doing fine. Just trying to get better and trying to try to be healthy, trying to be healthy. But I did have a transition for Nicolas Cage. So let's pretend we were just finishing that. And I'm going to say I love Nicolas Cage movies, including including City of Angels. Remember that one? But I remember that. Yeah. Andre Brower.
JVL00:17:19We did that together.
Vic00:17:21We did.
Sonny00:17:22Yep. And if this is such a good transition anyway, I can tell you which one the Cineplex Odeon
JVL00:17:28up next to what used to be the last Roy Rogers in D.C.
Vic00:17:32I don't remember much about the movie. Anyway, speaking of fallen angels over the weekend, Angel Has Fallen remained at the top of the box office. That was a hard one to do because I'd never seen these movies. Really? No, I haven't done it. Sorry. Eleven point eight million dollars followed by Good Boy. Good boys with nine and a half million dollars. And in third place, The Lion King, which took in six point eight million dollars. Boy, that's a paltry sum for the weekend, isn't it?
Sonny00:18:00Yeah. Well, first off, you should see Olympus Has Fallen. I think you would enjoy it. Is it? Is it?
Vic00:18:07Is it? Is it Gerard?
Sonny00:18:09Is it Gerard Butler every time? Yeah, it's Gerard Butler every time. First off, it's Die Hard in a building. So there's it has that going for I thought it was with Jamie Fox. No one that doesn't. Thank you. All right. Jamie Fox. There you go. That was White House down. White House down and Olympus Has Fallen came out like it was one of these like volcano Dante speak Armageddon, Armageddon, Deep Impact, where they came out within like six months of each other. And Olympus Has Fallen is a million times better than than White House down. Yes. But Olympus Has Fallen was directed by Antoine Fuqua. Big Oh, training day trading. But number two, actually, like as somebody who enjoys military strategy and tactics, I think you would actually. You would enjoy watching the North Korean assault on Washington, D.C. just to see how it goes down. I think you would actually. It's brilliantly staged. You would.
Vic00:18:57It is. As opposed to like Red Dawn. Right.
Sonny00:19:00North Korea invasion of America. Right. Right. No, like the North the North Korean invasion of Western the Western United States made no sense because there's like 12 North Koreans. Right. But the this idea that they could they could get a commando team together and assault the White House actually like made more sense just on it again, just on a like a. A rational level. And it's also very well staged and very well done. I mean, the rest of the movie is OK. I can't believe you haven't seen that. Yeah, I think you would.
Vic00:19:25I was about to make a joke about how they could. But never mind. But I'm not going to make a joke.
Sonny00:19:30Continue. Yeah. So this was this is always a bad weekend at the box office, the Labor Day weekend. But I would like to just note that it is it is if you look at the drops this weekend. Right. So Angel Has Fallen dropped forty five percent, which is like not a great hold, but also probably better than it would have been if there was anything else. Yes. Out this weekend. That's right. Good Boys dropped 18 percent. The Lion King dropped 14 percent. Fast and Furious, Hobbs and Shaw in its fifth week dropped less than 20 percent. Ready or Not dropped 26 percent, which is a great hold for a horror movie. Once Upon a Time in Hollywood dropped 17 percent. Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark, again, another horror movie, dropped only 14 percent. So like my point here is that these movies are not dropping the standard 40 to 50 percent this weekend. It's just slower. And one of the reasons for this is that there's nothing new at the box office. So now maybe if the studios decided that they didn't have to release a tentpole every weekend, things could hold a little better and the industry might be more sustainable and you could have these mid-budget films that are doing pretty well at the box office this weekend. That would be my big takeaway from this terrible, terrible box office report.
JVL00:20:46Thank you, JV. Do you have any thoughts? No, I actually have a question, though, for you, Sonny. Did you like Ready or not?
Sonny00:20:52I actually haven't seen it yet. I wanted to go see it. I didn't go see it.
JVL00:20:57Because all I know is I looked at it and it's got my favorite Canadian actor, Kittrich, from Mission Impossible. Oh, yes. Henry Czerny. Henry Czerny. Henry Czerny. Henry Czerny in it. And I just thought Henry Czerny is the patriarch of an insane, murderous family. If I did horror, that is a movie I would do.
Sonny00:21:17I think you would enjoy seeing this, because my understanding is that it's about how the 1% is bad.
JVL00:21:21Oh.
Sonny00:21:22This is like, supposedly, this is the movie The Hunt was supposed to be. It's about the 1% being terrible.
Vic00:21:31Snowpiercer but horror.
Sonny00:21:33Wow. Snowpiercer is already kind of horror.
Vic00:21:36In your absence, JVL, did you get a chance to see the Star Wars trailer?
JVL00:21:41The new one. I did not. In fact, I didn't even know that there was one.
Vic00:21:45Yes. And it's kind of... I mean, we saw it. Sonny and I saw it. Why don't you see it? Let's do it live. So, we were talking about this before the show. Let's do it live. We're gonna do it live.
JVL00:21:57Do it live. Just do it live.
?00:21:59Okay. So, come sit on my lap.
Sonny00:22:01I'm not gonna...
JVL00:22:02Okay. So, this is like... I'm just gonna listen to it. So, what we're doing is... This is gonna be like the trailer reaction videos, except for you can't...
Vic00:22:07But on a podcast. But you can't see JVL's face. But you can't see her faces. But you know those videos, 'cause you love 'em secretly. Okay. Here we go.
?00:22:14JVL.
Sonny00:22:15Thank God, this is only like a minute long.
JVL00:22:21That's tattooing. Oh, it's Luke Skywalker and Obi-Wan Kenobi. Hey, they're showing us scenes from movies we actually like. Look at that. Is it gonna make you feel warm? Han Solo's in it. Hey, I would go see Star Wars: A New Hope again.
Vic00:22:34Oh, the Lenny Riefenstahl. Oh, and the AT-ATs.
JVL00:22:38They're showing us all the good scenes from the good movies. I know. It's gonna get better.
Vic00:22:44He's all...
?00:22:45This is great. Okay, so this looks really good.
Vic00:22:46Oh, yeah.
JVL00:22:47Palpatine. Lando. The other Death Star. Shh, shh, shh. Shh. Oh.
?00:22:53We're missing all the dialogue.
Vic00:22:54Jake Lloyd.
JVL00:22:55Oh, now we're in the bad movies. This is the bad place. Oh, I didn't see this in the movie that I don't care about, though. This is the... Right. Right. It's bringing you up to speed. Do they know we don't care about this movie?
Sonny00:23:19It's so dramatic, though. Again, I can't really see anything. I can just hear it.
JVL00:23:27Oh, it's the story of a generation. Ooh. The time.
Vic00:23:31Oh, oh, oh.
JVL00:23:32Star Destroyers. Star Destroyers. And 3PO is there.
Sonny00:23:37Red Eye 3PO.
JVL00:23:40Oh, yeah. Oh, there's water.
Vic00:23:50Whoa. Mind blown. Mind blown. What a piece of absolute garbage. Okay. All right. So, JVL, you see, this is the end story.
Sonny00:24:12I really respect the fact that they made it one minute long. That's a long trailer for the movie that has like 15 seconds of new footage. Yeah, that's right.
JVL00:24:19Well, it's because they had to show people movies that people actually care about. They had to show people movies that they liked. How come they didn't show the Ewoks? Where was Rose? And Rose, that was essential. How many seconds worth of the Rian Johnson flick made it into that montage? Four seconds? Yeah, easily. Where was the Casino Planet? What?
Sonny00:24:38Where was Canto Bight?
JVL00:24:40Is that the name of the Casino Planet, Canto Bight? Okay. The Emperor is back. The Emperor is back. Are you sure? Because no one ever really died.
Sonny00:24:49Are you sure? I thought— No one's ever really gone. I keep on thinking that was—
Vic00:24:53Are you sure that's not Snoke? Because I want to know what happens to him.
Sonny00:24:57It would be the greatest—it would be—honestly, the only reason that I'm excited for this movie is to see how spitefully J.J. Abrams has put it together, to see if he like retcons all of the things back into the movies. That was actually just a simulation. That was a hologram of Snoke? Yeah.
JVL00:25:15So, Snoke is still really alive.
Sonny00:25:16Did it—if he is— The hologram gets split in two. If he is like going to go back and make Rey like the daughter of Han, or like if he's going to, you know, bring back Snoke and say he was Palpatine or the spirit of Palpatine or something.
JVL00:25:35Well, you know—
Sonny00:25:36Like just—I mean like, again, I've said this before on the show, but like the most important shot from that first trailer was the mask getting put back on Snoke. Right. It was like J.J. Abrams being like, "No. No." That's right. "I like that thing." That's right.
Vic00:25:52That's right. Isn't Snoke like a Force vampire, isn't it? I don't know. He's very— He's like Dr. Sleep. The disturbance in the Force. Somebody might have told me. That might have been Andrew Kugel in our office.
JVL00:26:00What would you say the odds are that she is in fact related by blood to somebody in the Skywalker clan? High. I would say— 100%? Or 99%?
Sonny00:26:12Yeah. Right. Exactly. 50/50 shot. Because again, it depends on how spiteful Abrams wants to be about this. Because Abrams clearly had some idea that she was related to this whole thing. And again, this is my big—I think that Rian Johnson made the right choice by separating her from all of that entirely. I thought that was actually a smart piece of storytelling to try and end the Skywalker saga. Because Star Wars is all wrapped up in its own nonsense, and they need to get out into the rest of the— That weird universe. Which The Mandalorian—did you see the trailer for The Mandalorian?
JVL00:26:50Now that is a great trailer. Is this different from the footage that was out at Comic-Con? I don't know.
Vic00:26:55Yes, yes. This is a new one. You can look at it later. Yeah, we'll watch it later. But all I have to tell you is IG-88. Yeah.
Sonny00:27:01So that actually— Yeah, that's it.
Vic00:27:03That's all you need. I'm sold. It's swing. I'm sold. Yeah, no. I mean—and you wondered, how could a little stick robot like that be an assassin droid? And this shows you what IG-88 can do. And it's everything.
Sonny00:27:13So that looks—that looks— Okay. You've seen it 36. You don't want to watch it. No.
Vic00:27:18No. No. It'll feel an eternity for those things. No. Okay.
?00:27:23What about the idea—the theory of time travel?
Vic00:27:24Yeah. For the trailer? Right. My son says, "Look at those Star Destroyers. Those are Imperial. Those are not New Order, First Order ships."
JVL00:27:32Tell me. Just as a matter of tactics. Yes. Do you think it is wise to fly that many Star Destroyers that close to one another?
Vic00:27:38Close to each other? In tight formation? Somebody could crash.
JVL00:27:41Wouldn't you—wouldn't you, for instance, want to spread your forces out so that it if somebody jumped to light speed and a small craft into it, it wouldn't take out the whole— I'm just saying.
Vic00:27:50By the name of Laura Dern.
Sonny00:27:51Yeah. But if it's in the past, though, the Holdo maneuver doesn't exist yet. That's right.
JVL00:27:57Nobody would ever think to do that. All right. No one would ever imagine to do that. So I was at the comic book shop over the weekend, and so you know that Star Wars is in—Marvel has gone heavy into the Star Wars comics. And they've done spinoffs of every possible character you could ever imagine from the entire Star Wars universe, and things are so desperate and so bad. There is now the Admiral Hux. Oh, an Admiral Hux comic book? Admiral Hux has his own series now. Wow. Where he's the protagonist? He's the star. I don't understand— I guess that would be my comic.
Vic00:28:32I don't know any more comics. I want one on Admiral Piat. I want Admiral Piat. I would read the Admiral Piat. I would love this rise to power. I would not read Admiral Hux.
JVL00:28:38Piat was great. Fair.
Sonny00:28:40I don't understand the comic book industry anymore. Are digital sales enough that they can keep printing out tons and tons of pulped issues? Because I feel like— Yeah, no, they've figured out how to make the pulped issues work. I just don't understand. Scarcity.
JVL00:29:00They've gotten very, very good at managing scarcity with variant covers. It doesn't matter what.
Vic00:29:05None of us saw Angel Has Fallen. Yes.
JVL00:29:08I saw it. You did see it, and you liked it.
Vic00:29:10Yeah, it was fine. It was bad. It was actually bad. I didn't like it. I'm skipping that one. But we all saw Good Boys.
Sonny00:29:17Yes? We did see Good Boys.
JVL00:29:19I saw Good Boys. Did anyone else see Good Boys? Come on. Don't do this to me.
Vic00:29:23No. I need this bit. It doesn't need it. It doesn't need it. But all three of us.
JVL00:29:28I saw Good Boys. Talk about a double dong.
?00:29:30That's terrible.
Sonny00:29:31Come on. Okay. All right. All right. That's not even a pun. Sonny. Sonny, how about— He just said double dong.
Vic00:29:39Yeah. How about— Fair enough. How about a big boy review while—and I could stretch it out. And I could stretch out my hip flexor. Go ahead.
Sonny00:29:47All right. Good Boys is the gender-swapped Booksmart. And because it's about guys instead of girls, it's made three times as much at the box office. That's my review.
JVL00:29:57Now, so the—it's hard to review comedy.
Sonny00:30:02I've never been very good at reviewing comedies because it's either funny or it isn't. Here's what I will say about Good Boys. Good Boys works for me in a way that Booksmart 100% did not because it is relatable. It feels real. There's more—there's more real emotion and like real relationships in the last ten minutes of this movie where they're like—where the middle school friends are kind of coming apart. They're discovering girls and they're just discovering, you know, acting and they're—they're, you know, the nerd—the other like nerd group, you know. And it—and it's done in a very—it's done in this montage that is—that is both funny and kind of touching and kind of sweet. And entertaining and I—I—I really like it. So I—I mean like the—the plot of the movie is these three kids. They need to get—they need to replace the drone of one of their fathers that they've destroyed by illicitly taking it out of the house and to do this they have to go on a journey. They have to go on a quest— Hero's journey. —to the shopping mall. They have to go on the hero's journey to the shopping mall and get it and come back. And that is like— In order to go to a kissing party. In order—in order—in order so they don't get grounded so they can go to the kissing party. Right. So here— Basically it's Star Wars. It is essentially Star Wars. Ha! If you think about it. I'm doing a really bad job of describing this movie. No, no, no. But it is—it is—as with any comedy it's not really the plot that matters so much as the interactions between all of these guys and I thought it was really well done. And it's one of those—it's one of the rare comedies that doesn't tell all of the jokes in the trailer. Um. And I was actually surprised by how much stuff I was seeing on the screen that I hadn't already either seen or had been hinted at in the trailers. For instance, the—the guest appearance by Steven Merchant. We were discussing this. Fantastic. As the sex doll enthusiast. And the—and my—and the—the two best characters in the show—in the—in the movie actually are the girls. I thought that— The girls are so great. The teen girls who they—
JVL00:32:08Oh, Vec! Don't black out! Too late. I was—I was pretty— How old are they supposed to be?
Sonny00:32:14I would assume they are supposed to be seniors, right? Because one of them has a boyfriend who's in—who just went to college.
JVL00:32:22That's right. Some of them. I don't think so because they're not in school. They have money. I take them as recent college graduates, maybe. Oh, no, no, no, no. Because that's why they—
Sonny00:32:31I thought they—they were definitely still— They're supposed to be high school. They were not—they were not in college yet. They're not in college yet. Like, the co—the guy in college was talking about how he had gone to college. Benji. Yes.
Vic00:32:41And that there were all the girls there. I think they're like, "No longer girls, but not yet women."
Sonny00:32:44I assume—I assume that Midori Francis is Vic's new favorite actress. How did you know?
Vic00:32:51Look, you know what's so funny? I literally wrote that down. I am now officially in love with Midori Francis.
Sonny00:32:56Anyway, but the—
Vic00:32:58Oh, my God, Vic. Are you okay? I'm not even into Asians, which is how hot she is, you know? That's how surprising it is. There we go. Thank you. Thank you, Sonny.
Sonny00:33:08So, anyway, my review is—my review is that it is very funny, and I don't know how to quantify that exactly except to say that, like, the— The interactions between the kids are all great. There's lots of surprises. The plot is bare-bones enough that it—that it—you—there's a lot of stuff you can do within it, and as a bonus, it's, like, 100 minutes long.
JVL00:33:27It's exactly the right length.
Sonny00:33:28It's like— No, it was so perfect—
Vic00:33:30It's exactly as long as it needed to be. It was so perfect in that amount of time. I—so funny that you should mention Midori Francis because I was like, "Where did I see her before?" And she was the Liberty Mutual girl, you know? And she's like, "Your car, and you loved your car, Brad, and this whole thing about the car, Brad, but she looks so much better in this movie." And I wanted to know all about her, and so I typed her into Google. Just make sure it's a secure line. Speaking of which, when you're preparing to travel abroad, there's a lot of things on your checklist to pack, but what's probably missing is the one app that's going to keep you safe and secure online while you're away: ExpressVPN. ExpressVPN doesn't just encrypt your data while you surf the internet on public airport in a hotel Wi-Fi, it even lets you stream and access content that normally would have been blocked in that country. With ExpressVPN, you can unblock all of your favorite websites and have access to the internet just like you would if you were home. ExpressVPN runs in the background of your computer or phone, and then you use the internet just like you normally would. You download the app, click to connect, and voila, you're protected. I never go online while traveling without ExpressVPN, and you shouldn't either. ExpressVPN is the fastest VPN I've tried, costs less than $7 a month, and comes with a 30-day money-back guarantee. ExpressVPN uses new cutting edge technology called Trusted Server to make sure there's no logs of what you do online. So no matter what you're trying to browse online, ExpressVPN gives you instant access all over the world. Don't travel anywhere without downloading ExpressVPN. Protect your online activity today and find out how you can get three months free at ExpressVPN.com/WFB. That's E-X-P-R-E-S-S-V-P-N.com. For three months free with a one year package, visit ExpressVPN.com/WFB to learn more. JVL, you were big on this movie. You wanted to see it and I was like, I don't know if it's, you know, I mean, it looks like it's from the trailer, I thought they were trying too hard and the language and the kids. That's like, I don't know how this is going to work for me. And I liked it a lot. What did you think?
JVL00:35:44Two words. McDonald's Society.
Vic00:35:48Yeah. Yeah.
JVL00:35:50No, I right. Yeah, that's right. So I thank you.
Vic00:35:53Oh, what a shout out to my friends. JVL remembers.
JVL00:35:55So I, I was touched in a very, very deep way by this, by this movie because Good Boys is essentially a, an alt version of my tween childhood years. And I, by the time the movie was over, I was like, not. Not even really joking here, kind of on the verge of tears. Oh. Oh, same. And because, and I thought about you, so, so my, my best friend, uh, since second grade is still my best friend today. And like, I texted him as I was getting out of the movie theater, I was like, this is the movie about us. You have to go see it. It's the story of us. And I thought about you and the McDonald's society, which is yours.
Sonny00:36:36So I wonder how many guys say that because I did the same thing. What is the McDonald's?
JVL00:36:39Well, it's like the beanbag boys. That was just the name of my gang. So in the good, good boys. Their little club is like, they call themselves the beanbag boys. And for Vicks guys, they call themselves the McDonald's society.
Vic00:36:50Because we used to go to McDonald's after school all the time. Yeah. And for me, it was just me and Chris.
JVL00:36:54The paragon of health that I am.
Vic00:36:55And you and Chris, right?
JVL00:36:56Yeah. But this is, I think not all guys are lucky enough to have like Sonny because he has no heart or soul. Never had friends. Well, you moved around. I don't know what friends are.
Sonny00:37:04You moved around because. Yeah. By the time I wound up in Virginia, I was already 14. So I was already like way past this.
JVL00:37:09But for me, for me, the, what made it so unbelievably touching. As, as a, as a story was so that the film ends with a very ambiguous view of, are they really gonna grow apart and grow their separate ways or are they really friends for life? And for people like me and Vick, the answer is that we look at those characters and we know that they're gonna be friends for life anyway, even though they grow up into different,
Vic00:37:34you know, even though they, they do different things, you know, your, your boys all did different things. It takes effort. I'd say two weeks, two weeks ago, my other buddy who listens to the podcast, George Katari, a part of the McDonald's society, he was visiting, uh, DC and then when he hang out and came to the house and had dinner with the family and I've known George since kindergarten. Yeah. So, you know, but it's, it's one of those things. And then I texted my other friend, Steve Eustaris, who I've known since first grade. And I said the same thing. I said, you gotta see this movie because at that time though, in sixth grade, I only had two friends. It was Steve Eustaris and Steve Rushford. So watching that again. And also it's very, it's very true when they're all that age, uh, going into sixth grade, which is kind of, you know, an awkward time and an awkward. Time for, for many, um, some become, you know, mature faster than others. And so, I mean, in our group, you know, Rushford was really, really still into, you know, really into girls. And then me and Steve were still into like, you know, Marvel role playing, you know what I mean?
JVL00:38:29And that happens. This is how it was for. And so we, I was for fifth and sixth grade, I was still in my hippie Quaker school and our class was 12 kids, four girls and eight boys. I mean, it was like summer camp, it wasn't like real school and, and it was bizarre. There was one girl who had boobs and like, I was the only guy in the class was kind of into girls and the rest of us, you know, but we all still played Dungeons and Dragons together. It was all just weird and everybody's kind of changing, but also these friendships can be real and can last for forever. And that's where the sweetness of the movie is. I was really surprised by that. It was funny. And Sonny said, like, it is really funny.
Vic00:39:06I asked Sonny. I said, I said, I don't know. I mean, I, I have concerns. I mean, cause like the kids using that kind of language, you know, I don't know, I'm not really buying into it, but you said. So you start not to notice it and that's true. I didn't.
Sonny00:39:17Yeah. I mean, there's definitely a lot of like, it thinks there, there is a lot of, uh, edginess for the sake of edginess, you know, all this stuff with the sex toys. Seth Rogen, did he?
JVL00:39:27Seth Rogen was producer, but he, he did not write or direct.
Sonny00:39:31I don't think. Um, the, but the, the, I, it is incredibly poignant. Um, and again, this is not trying to be, I mean, it's not beating you over the head on it. This is not Toy Story 4. Because it's, because it's honest because it's like, this is like a real people. It is a real look at how people really live. And this is the thing. So I, I, I keep comparing this movie to Booksmart and I do this kind of for two reasons. One is to troll fans of Booksmart because they're insufferable, uh, and they're, it's like 93% fresh on Rotten Tomatoes and everyone's like, oh, the only reason this movie hasn't succeeded is sexism and blah, blah. And no, the reason, the reason that movie hasn't succeeded is cause there isn't a single real moment in the film. It is, it is this weird, uh, upper. Middle class white liberal fantasia of what it is like to be a child that is, I, as best as I can tell, gleaned from like Tumblr diaries and Twitter threads. Uh, it is not, it is, there's nothing, there's nothing remotely real about that film. It is, it is, it is a grotesque parody of life. Um, and Good Boys is not real either. Exactly. I mean, kids aren't running around, you know, trading sex dolls for, for money to go by. Right. You know, whatever. But the, the. Uh, the, the emotions and the relationships of these kids is, uh, is very true to life, I think.
JVL00:40:55I, some of it is, some of it is very real. I, so, I, I don't know how, I've been wrestling with how much leg to show in, in. Go for it. Talking about this. But, you know, I'd say we had, Chris and I, together, just us, and then the other little guys who, from our, our little hippie Quaker school. Had, like, weirdo adventures kind of like this. I, I will never forget this one time we, you know, I don't know, we went through a phase in fifth grade where we were, like, a ninja clan. And, you know, we were fashioning weapons for ourselves, nunchucks, and we were basically, like, taking hockey sticks and cutting the, the, the, the, what, what, what do hockey players call the part that you touch the puck with? Blade? The blade. Well, whatever. I don't know. Captain Joel's wire. Just dying.
Vic00:41:39Cut it off and just take the stick part and be like, this is my punja stick.
JVL00:41:43Anyway. So, like, we. We went into the woods behind one, you know, one of our, I forget whose house we were at. It might have been Mike McIntosh's house. And we just started, like, wandering through the woods. And we wandered through the woods for, like, four hours. And then there was this small stream that we had to cross. And you had to, like, to get across it, there was a tree lying across it. And most of us got through, but somebody fell off the tree. And, like, you know, the water was, like, 10 or 12 feet deep. And we had to, like, pull him out. And we just kept going. And we finally came out in, like, a suburban neighborhood. And we had no idea what was going on. We had no earthly idea where we were. And there's, like, no cell phones. We'd been gone for six hours. We're carrying these, like, weirdo pretend. And we had gone, like, two towns over. And so we were, like, what are we going to do? We don't know how to get home. We don't know where we are.
Vic00:42:30Yeah, exactly like that. Right, exactly, yeah.
JVL00:42:32And so they were, like, JVL, you are the one who is good at dealing with grownups. Go up and knock on the door of a house and ask them to call Mike's mom to come pick us up. And so, like, I went up and I rang the doorbell. And I was, like, oh, my God. And I was, like, hi, ma'am. I know this is a little bit strange. But we were playing around in the woods and kept wandering. And we just came out. We have no idea where we are. And we were wondering if we could call my friend's mom to pick us up. And, like, you know, this old lady with gray hair was, like, fine, sure. And so she called Mike's mom.
Vic00:42:58Anyway, but all this sort of stuff like this.
JVL00:43:02And I don't know.
Vic00:43:04All of these things are sort of quest-like. We used to.
JVL00:43:06I heard that Walt Geblein's mom's aunt had a Playboy somewhere in the house. So we got to go to his house and figure out a way. That's right. To get that holiday issue from 1976 Playboy because it has the extra centerfold in it.
Vic00:43:19I was going to say I remember because, you know, we would be like, you know, we have, like, you know, we would do movies on camcorders, you know, make videos and movies. Like young Steven Spielberg. Everyone wanted to be that, you know, host Goonies or whatever. Like, we're going to do this thing, kids, whatever, make a movie all the time, every weekend. And then one weekend, Steve Rusher's like, have you heard of Debbie Does Dallas? Because I got the videotape. And then he and he borrowed the. Video, a friend, another friend who I won't mention this kid from school, lent him the tape for free. And he then charged other kids. Was he renting it out or like 25? No, no, no, no, no, no. You could borrow it like for the night, you know, how much did he charge? I have no idea, but it was insane. I mean, it's the whole thing. So anyway, love that brought all these flooded memories come flooding back. The memories come flooding back. I'm so glad. I mean, I'm just glad the way the movie worked and there were actual moments in the movie are good. They're not really good.
JVL00:44:16Well, they're really good actors, but I'm saying the characters themselves are not. They're very normal. They're us. Let me just say this too. They're not either super good or super bad. Can I say this? They're not crazy smart. That's crazy popular. That's right.
Sonny00:44:25No, they're just normal kids. Well, this is one of the reasons why this movie works and like Superbad works, right? Like, because they're basically just normal.
Vic00:44:34And they're way better than Superbad.
Sonny00:44:35Relatable. Really?
Vic00:44:36Way better than Superbad. I need to think about it. I need to think about that. But I was going to say also, I was so glad to see that. I said, thank God he was able to get a job after being in The Predator. He was the son, the autistic son in The Predator. He was. Oh, that's right. Oh, okay.
Sonny00:44:55He was also, what was he in? He was in The Room, right?
Vic00:44:58Room and also Augie in Wonder.
JVL00:45:01So he's very good. Oh, yeah. Oh, he's in that? The kid who plays Lucas. Oh, the best. That kid's comic timing. Right, right, right. He's so good. Right, right. No, absolutely. Body language, the whole thing. He knows it. Yeah, I don't know. I thought everything about Good Boys was fantastic.
Vic00:45:17I think the part that I laughed the loudest for whatever reason was when they're trying to buy the drugs. And it's a total homage to Boogie Nights because they have the noise going off. Thank you. I thought to myself, this is their version of being.
JVL00:45:31Right, the three of them are jumping at it every time they hear it because there's like
Vic00:45:34the hazing going on upstairs. And then the other, and then the guy who's going to sell them the drugs says, you know, why am I going to sell, you know, a bunch of seven-year-olds? And then he turns to Lucas. That's for you. I know you from Econ. Funny. It is funny. It is funny.
Sonny00:45:49I had totally forgotten about it because I watched this like a month ago now. Oh, that's true. So I had totally forgotten about the excursion to the frat house.
JVL00:45:57That's great.
Sonny00:45:57Which is one of the funniest bits in the whole thing, especially because the boyfriend is
JVL00:46:04such a scumbag. Oh, awful. He finally just says to the kid, as this like 11-year-old kid who wants to buy Molly from him, he goes, yeah, fine, whatever. I'm not your parents. Right.
Vic00:46:16And the sort of the seediness of the frat house, you know?
Sonny00:46:21Do you think he was actually going to sell them the drugs or was he just trying to find out who sent them? I went back and forth on this. I thought, I got the sense that he just wanted the intel.
JVL00:46:33Yeah, I think so.
Sonny00:46:34I don't know. Hard to tell.
JVL00:46:36But the girl, also the girls were great. The girls are really very funny.
Sonny00:46:39The two girls are fully formed characters.
Vic00:46:40Yes, they are.
Sonny00:46:41And they're great.
JVL00:46:42And that they turn. They turn out, that she turns out to be the older sister of the super popular kid. Again, it puts everything in perspective because, of course, she's the one who says, I have a younger brother. You're supposed to terrify them. Yeah. Right. Exactly. They go to the party. I love the mom. So she goes, I don't even want to know what's going on down there.
Vic00:47:01I don't think there are parents like that. And it's terrifying. And it's happening in the basement.
JVL00:47:04But the other thing that, again, just stuck, just hit me very, very close to home was the idea of talking. In a pseudo-sophisticated way about things that you only vaguely kind of have. That's actually very true. I was thinking about that. When they're talking about the super popular kid, they're like, man, he's so popular that what do they say? They say, you know, he was blowjobbing against the locker or something like that. Right.
Sonny00:47:31Or the way they talk about the sips of beer. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I've done a sip of beer. I've done a sip.
Vic00:47:37There's that element of it. Yeah. So it's great. Man.
JVL00:47:41Yeah.
Vic00:47:41Sweet.
JVL00:47:42And here's a question. Would our wives understand? Would it mean anything to our wives? Because I came home and the first thing I did. I'd love to watch it again. I'd love to watch it again. You have to watch it again. I said the same thing.
Sonny00:47:52But then I thought to myself, I don't know if like girlhood is like this.
JVL00:47:56Like, I don't know if 11 year old girls have the same sort of thing or not.
Vic00:48:00I don't think any of Kate's friends say, I got some porn. Let's watch it. You know, I don't think they do.
JVL00:48:05No, but it might be something. The question is, do they have that sort of thing? I don't know. And I don't know the answer to it.
Sonny00:48:11I honestly don't know. Yeah. This. Yeah. This. This is another reason why perhaps it is just sexism that Good Boys wins and Booksmart doesn't. But is it possible?
Vic00:48:19Well, no, not sexism. And it's short enough you can see it again.
JVL00:48:21Is it possible that Booksmart really does, like is a real thing for girls that you just.
Sonny00:48:25Possibly.
JVL00:48:26You and I can't recognize because like gender experience. I love Sonny's face when you said that, by the way.
Sonny00:48:30I'm frankly not sure. Olivia Wilde, the director, had what we would describe as a normal, you know, childhood. That's right. She's like the children of actors, right? I think so. I don't know. She's like the niece of Anna. Alexander Coburn. Yeah.
JVL00:48:45Oh, no, she's like rich and. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. But it did make me wonder. I mean, gender differences are real and it plays out in the types of relationships we have, you know, with our friends. It might just be a guy movie. It's very possible. It's entirely possible.
Vic00:49:02It's just a guy movie.
JVL00:49:03A plus plus. Fantastic. So sweet. I imagine that I will. It's funny.
Vic00:49:08So A plus plus is when you get perfect and then you do the extra credit.
JVL00:49:12Flash wanted to. Flash wanted to go see this because he's seen commercials for it during. I know. I know. Kids see it and they think. Right. And I was able to honestly say to him, I said to him, look, first of all, it's wildly inappropriate. I will not take you to see this. But second of all, I said to him, you wouldn't get any of it. You would be bored to tears by it because, again, I just don't think none of this makes any sense unless you're an adult. So they're all.
Vic00:49:35But they're all going into sixth grade. And you just think that, you know, you think to yourself, God, I really hope they're not talking like that for real. You know, but I don't know.
Sonny00:49:42Oh, God. The. The theater director. I just remembered. I just I just got a flash of him like. Doing drugs on the in the backstage as they're doing the play. The dude with the lines. They have a line.
JVL00:49:52The scene where he does the lines is fantastic. It really is. They're just lots of little.
Sonny00:49:56Where Thor goes in with the. Lots of little moments. Lots of little moments.
JVL00:49:58And does lines on stage. Lots of little moments.
Vic00:50:00OK. That was awesome.
JVL00:50:02So tell me. So Rock of Ages. Yeah. Rock of Ages. What is Rock of Ages? The story of.
Vic00:50:07Well, you know, and Tom Cruise did the movie. They made a movie of Rock of Ages. Yeah. It's. It's. It's. It's like. It's a jukebox musical. A celebration of. Of Hades' hairband. Of Hades' hairband.
JVL00:50:16Oh, it's a generic hairband. It's not. Yeah. One. But I thought it was supposed to be poison.
Vic00:50:21I always assumed it was poison.
Sonny00:50:22They do all. They just do all the songs. Yeah. It's not the.
Vic00:50:25That's right. That's right. So they do all the heavy metal songs from our time that we. As long as that, I mean, at the time, like, eh. And then you look back. Oh, I love that song. It's not like the Motley Crue musical.
?00:50:34No.
Vic00:50:34The Dirt. The Dirt.
Sonny00:50:36Great movie. That wasn't a musical. That was Truth. That was Truth. It was the biopic. Okay. Do we have any other. The true story.
Vic00:50:41Any other good boy thoughts? Everything was good?
Sonny00:50:43The Dirt was a big hit in the Free Beacon office. I remember. I went to the screening. You and I. You and I were. You and I and Harrison. And Aaron Harrison.
Vic00:50:52In this office. And half. We had a bottle of Jack. No. Believe it or not, it was a bottle of Wild Turkey. A bottle of Wild Turkey. Even better.
Sonny00:50:58And I believe it was like. Was it the 101? Yeah, it was Wild Turkey 101. Wild Turkey 101.
Vic00:51:01And I believe at the end of that movie, there was less than half left.
Sonny00:51:04Yeah, there was a. That was a. That was an Uber home from work day. Mm-hmm.
Vic00:51:08I can't remember how I got home that day. Okay. Corrections, additions, shout outs. I have a correction from two weeks ago. Multiple listeners, including Michael Vorinoff, inform us that the fourth Mark's brother was Zeppo, not Gummo. Remember? Continetti said he was Gummo.
Sonny00:51:26I couldn't. I was. I didn't care about this at all.
Vic00:51:29People really cared about this. And Gummo. Mark's brother's role. Was a brother. But he wasn't in any. Of the movies. And I do have another shout out. I had lunch recently at the Palm with listeners Keenan and Brianna McGinnis, and they were the ones who had given us the Rip Van Winkle. And we gave them stuff for their anniversary. They didn't invite me? You were at the beach. Oh, okay.
Sonny00:51:53Where was I?
Vic00:51:55You don't work here anymore. They didn't want you.
JVL00:51:57You don't work here anymore. I don't see you. They only wanted Vic. Wow. They didn't want Vic. It's Mr. President over here. They didn't want JV. All right.
Vic00:52:07All right. All right. That's all the time.
JVL00:52:09Is it because you're both Hoyas? Is that why? All three. All three. All of you are. All three.
Vic00:52:13She went to Georgetown Law. Unfortunately, she didn't go to undergrad. She only went to Yale. Okay. That's all the time we're giving to this episode. Questions, comments, complaints, compliments. Tweet us at Victorino Matus at Sonny Bunch. Again, be sure to subscribe to us on iTunes, Google Play, or Stitcher. Just type in SubBeacon on the podcast. We're there. Leave a review. Tell your friends. Until next time. I have one tiny thing, but other than that. Tell me.
JVL00:52:47Or we can watch the Mandalorian trailer. You tell me.
Vic00:52:50Let's discuss Mandalorian maybe next episode, I think. Let's see. You need to realize. It's really good. No, my only thing is it was a lovely lunch with Kenan and Brianna, and they were in town for business and such. And then we were chatting about Georgetown. What it was back in the day. Remember this? I'm glad I didn't go. I was throwing my drink on them. There was an extra seat, and it was like in your honor. And then I said, oh, yeah, but I said, so when did you graduate from Georgetown undergrad? And Kenan says, oh, a long time ago, 2012.
JVL00:53:25Old man matters.
Vic00:53:27I think I went to school with your parents.
Sonny00:53:30I said, okay. And then did you say, I'm sure it's fine? Is that what you're gesturing at me? Oh, I'm sure it's fine.
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