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#50. 1917, Cigar Smoking, and More Star Wars!

2020-01-16 · 57:09

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1917 opens at number one with $37 million and produces the show's most heated argument in months. JVL is transported, telling the others it's the first time in maybe fourteen years he has sat in a theater and felt he was watching cinematic greatness unspool in front of him; he saw it on the Alamo's Big Show screen, nearly went back the same night for a second viewing, calls it a top-five war movie of all time and easily the best film of the year, and insists nothing in Sam Mendes's corpus — not Jarhead, not Revolutionary Road, not even Skyfall — suggested he had this in him. Vic gives it an A-plus-plus and layers in the history, placing it between the second and third battles of Ypres with the Germans pulled back to the Hindenburg line, admiring the English mugs of George MacKay and Dean-Charles Chapman, spotting the limestone of champagne country in the final trenches, and joking that the war's real tragedy was the lost 1914-to-1918 vintages. Sonny, having warned off in advance from any Scorsese-style troll job, holds firm that it's a gimmick movie: he spent the whole runtime hunting for the seams and predicting which camera swoop would hide a cut, and he reads the star cameos as video-game exposition dumps and chapter markers, with Benedict Cumberbatch as a final boss "slain with rhetoric." He still praises Roger Deakins, hopes he wins, and singles out the post-blackout sequence in the burning city as his favorite in the film, though he'd still rank Once Upon a Time in Hollywood higher. JVL's grand theory that the officer cameos dramatize the amateur aristocratic British officer corps gets dismantled point by point — Colin Firth, Mark Strong and Cumberbatch are all portrayed as competent and decent, Sonny notes, so "this is not Paths of Glory" — but JVL still gets to deliver his real thesis, that 1917 and Dunkirk are bookend films about the British experience of the two wars that ended the Empire, and that the Great War, not the Second, is the underappreciated event that broke liberalism. They also relish the Vulture piece on the production: the farmhouse was built from scratch in a field, nearly a mile of trench was dug with the length calibrated to the pace of the dialogue, and in one shot the camera operators become extras. Earlier, the leaked summary of Colin Trevorrow's discarded Duel of the Fates script gets savaged — Sonny closed the tab the instant he read that Rose Tico gets a bigger role, and JVL walks through the Lovecraftian 7,000-year-old ghoul Tor Valum and Kylo's face healed with smelted Mandalorian armor — which becomes JVL's argument that The Last Jedi was Star Wars' Donald Trump election, splitting the fan base so thoroughly that its rejection could never be clean. Sonny goes further, suggesting the film franchise may simply be unsalvageable, with both agreeing that if anything reunites the fandom it will be Baby Yoda. Up front, Vic's croaking voice is explained by hours in a cigar lounge with listeners Adam Novak, Jim Swift, Andrew Nearing and Thomas Hebert, a Montecristo and a Macanudo that left him lingering like Pig-Pen for days, followed by a self-audit prompted by a Wall Street Journal piece on rising heart disease — a 22-ounce bone-in ribeye ("so it's really only like 16"), red wine as medicine, and a lunchtime martini offset by ordering fish for the omega-3s. Sonny, eight days from his move to Dallas, reports throwing out roughly a thousand pounds of possessions, and Vic closes by ambushing JVL with an invitation to come speak at Georgetown.

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Guest00:00:00You have a brother in the 2nd Battalion. Yes sir. Is he... Alive. And with your help, I'd like to keep it that way. But they're walking into a trap. Your orders are to deliver a message calling off tomorrow morning's attack. If you don't, we will lose 1,600 men. Your brother among them.
Vic00:00:30Hello, and welcome to another edition of the Sub-Beacon sponsored by Warby Parker and as always SwagRite.com. I'm Victor Matus along with Sonny Bunch and Jonathan V. Last. Just a reminder, the Sub-Beacon is available on iTunes, Google Play, and Stitcher. Look under podcasts and search for Sub-Beacon. You will easily find us. Please subscribe, tell your friends, and leave a review.
JVL00:00:55You sound forking amazing today.
Vic00:00:58At a time when...
JVL00:00:59What is going on? You sound...
Vic00:01:04Well, that's what happens when you spend hours in a cigar lounge.
JVL00:01:07Like Clark Peters?
Vic00:01:09Yeah. So, well, if you want to get right to that, yes, I have my... I don't often smoke cigars. I will allow myself one or two a year, a year, you know, for life insurance purposes. You have to say that for life insurance purposes. Almost never. Yeah, one at most, which is actually true. At most. You know, I got enough ailments in my body. I don't need to worry about... I don't like adding to that.
JVL00:01:30Does cigars affect the gout? It might cloud the outlook, if you will.
Vic00:01:35But anyway, we have a friend who is a Sub-Beacon listener, Adam Novak, who is now in town.
JVL00:01:43And so... Terrible tragedy.
Vic00:01:45He should never have done that. And yeah, no. Well, at the moment, though, you know, he is just him right now in town. The family is still where he's from. So that's like, that's the ideal, isn't it?
JVL00:01:55You know, all sorts of... Yeah, he gets to go hang out with you. In a cigar bar.
Vic00:02:00All sorts of action on the side. And so he was there and Jim Swift was there, but also two other Sub-Beacon listeners, Andrew Nearing and Thomas Hebert, Hebert, as I said. Hebert. Hebert. Hebert. Hebert. And so we had a lovely time. The only problem is when you go to a place like that and you smoke one or two cigars is not only, you know, it feels like an ashtray in your mouth, you know, no matter what you do. Oh, but it's so good. You shower. It still lingers. I don't know where it's lingering, but it's just lingering on me. I'm like pig pen or something like everywhere you go. Oh, yeah. We will yet. No, no, no. There are. They were both from Thomas. He bears us. He's got a cigar box there. Is that what they're. So what were you? Locker? The first. So he was very generous. Humidor. Humidor. Really. And it was a Monte Cristo. And then the second one was a Macanudo. He gave it. He says. This is the one people say when they say they don't want to smoke another one. This is the one they end up with anyway, which is so something nice and light. So that was quite nice. So that was it. Sounds it was nice.
JVL00:03:09But again, it's if you love the show, you would smoke cigars every Wednesday night.
Vic00:03:13But it was. But it was. But it was brutal. And so, again, you know, I had to go into the hampered fine clothes that I already had gotten rid of because I know that was, you know, because it has to go through like several washes, I think, as the misses. Please. Well, remind me. Okay. So but anyway, I'll get back to me in a second. I'm doing fine. But it's actually been a rough week because I've been having to drink almost every day for different occasions, having to having two functions, even when I don't plan to. Like the other day, I was at the Bombay Club. Okay. And oh, and the waiter came over and put the gun to your head and said, you have to drink. Well, it had been a while since I'd been there. And he says, oh, it's so good to see you again, Martini. And how did you know? Oh, and that's one of the things that I like is when I'm a sucker for that. Oh, you remembered. So I'm like, well, it is eleven forty five, but you know what? By the time they bring the drink over, it'll be noon. And then, you know, and then and then prior to that. So I mean, it's it and then and then over the weekend, I also was at a steakhouse. I mentioned this on the show. Hello, Sonny. So he's been very quiet. Sonny.
JVL00:04:24Hello.
Vic00:04:25Are you writing another piece? I'm not sure it's happening while I'm talking. So there was a there was a piece in the in the journal about the rise of heart heart disease. Mm hmm. And it's very alarming. It was about Vic Madison. Well, no, I mean, I mean, basically of the interview, a guy who said, you know, he was very athletic when he grew up and then he ended up and, you know, going into consulting. And then now, you know, he has all sorts of heart problems now. And he said he loved going to McDonald's. I'm like, check. And because I love getting, you know, two quarter pounders. I'm not sure if he said two double quarter pounders or two quarter pounders, but he just
Sonny00:04:58wanted a pound.
Vic00:04:59Yes.
Sonny00:05:00Just a pound.
Vic00:05:01I wanted a pounder. I want a pounder. So I'm like, check.
Sonny00:05:04Pounder.
?00:05:05And he goes, oh, we know her.
Sonny00:05:06Ah, that's good. Look at you.
Vic00:05:08Sorry. You snapped me out of my reverie.
JVL00:05:10I know you were. You were kind of in a coma.
Vic00:05:13Zoned out. You were zoned out. And then he said, I love getting those two quarter pounders and and the nuggets. And I'm like, whoa, wait a minute. He you know, I was with him all the way until he said the nuggets. That's too much now. Is it two quarter pounders is one thing.
Sonny00:05:26Yeah. Just a four count. He needs nuggets.
JVL00:05:30He needs to go too far.
Sonny00:05:31He needs to be on the reduced gluttony diet. He's just a gluttony diet. Clearly he's just a take out the nugs, you get rid of the nuggets and then you're you're immediately on reduced gluttony.
Vic00:05:41And they also said about the alarming increase in young people having heart problems in their forties and fifties. So that's not that's not young. That's like I'm already in the September of my years. You know what? If you hit 50 September of September, I hope it's not September. If I get to if I get like 50. 50. That's it. We could celebrate. I'm one of my George Burns. One of my Queen Elizabeth.
Sonny00:06:04So yeah, you're what? You're what?
Vic00:06:06Like 47 now? Going to be soon in next month.
Sonny00:06:08Seven. So yeah, you are.
Vic00:06:10You're in the sunset. I'm riding. I'm riding off.
Sonny00:06:13It's like sunset. It's like October 20th.
Vic00:06:17My my advice.
JVL00:06:18It's almost Halloween. It is exciting.
Vic00:06:20Wait a minute. Where? Yes. In my life. We're creeping. We're creeping forward. Let's get the days again. That is common. The days are getting shorter. Getting longer. The the. So my advice was always like like over the weekend I had a 22 ounce ribeye, but it was bone in. So, you know, it's not that.
Sonny00:06:37So it's really only like 16 hours.
Vic00:06:39Yeah, I'd say so. And and I don't know.
Sonny00:06:42I've actually.
Vic00:06:43No, this is.
Sonny00:06:44I don't know. I was at Oak. I've always. I've always. You were all missed. I've always been kind of curious about this. Like what? The actual weight. Yeah. Of the bone in of the bone in the bone in ribeye is because I feel like I'm getting screwed. I feel like, you know, you get the you get like the. Like 48 ounce tomahawk steak, but it's like it's a big three pounds of bone pre cooked weights.
JVL00:07:04Right. Yeah. Yeah. And so you cook it. It's all like half of its water anyway.
Vic00:07:09There you go. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, I mean, how much of it?
JVL00:07:15That's a good question. That's a good question. But I also had red wine. And as you know, red wine is good for you.
Vic00:07:19Red wine is very good for you. There was an article in the Wall Street Journal saying that. I think it's the same page. And so you just balance it out. The same thing at the Bombay Club. I OK, fine. I had a martini. But you know what I got as an entree? Lemon. Omega threes.
Sonny00:07:30That's the healthiest thing you've ever eaten. Omega threes.
JVL00:07:33That's it. JVL, what's going on? Can we talk a little bit more about Star War? Yes, we can talk about the wars amongst the stars.
Vic00:07:40Big blockbuster movie.
JVL00:07:41Because there was an incident on the Internet this week. Another one? Another one where the script, the original script for the Rise of Skywalker, the Colin Trevorrow. Colin Trevorrow. The man who brought us. Jurassic World. And the Book of Henry. And the Book of Henry. Not Eli. He he did the original script, has a story credit, I think, on Rise of Skywalker. And so his original script, the Duel of the Fates, was leaked. And the good. Wait a minute.
Sonny00:08:17He called it Duel of the Fates. Not not the actual script, but like a summary of it, basically a summary of it.
Vic00:08:22Yes. Coverage of the rollback to the Phantom Menace.
JVL00:08:24And and the people at. The Onion, the AV club, think that the Trevorrow script could have saved Rise of Skywalker. Right.
Sonny00:08:37How would you like to know what happened? Can I can I just can I just tell you my response to the link that you sent me, please? Because you sent me this link, JVL. You were very excited. You were like these people are talking about this Colin Trevorrow script and it's amazing. Their discussion is amazing. That's what I meant. And I and I and I like I opened it up. And the first thing, the very first point they make in this man, may I read the quote,
JVL00:09:02please? Please do. Rose Tico is given a much larger role.
Sonny00:09:06And that's it. I closed it immediately. I just X on the box. I was like, if that is your if that's your like big takeaway on how to save this movie, I am not going to read the rest of your like 5000 word piece.
JVL00:09:20So this is this is the the summary of the good version. Of Rise of Skywalker, Rose Tico gets a big role and runs off with C-3PO Finn and R2D2 on a mission to light a beacon on Coruscant, which will draw in the allies. And then Rey, Poe and Chewbacca go around to do their own thing. There's a lot more Zory Bliss and Babu Frick, who, according to The Onion, are fan favorites. Babu Frick is a legitimate fan favorite.
Sonny00:09:54Which one is the baby Yoda? He's the little puppet. He's the little puppet thing that rewires C-3PO's head.
Vic00:09:59Oh, yeah, yeah, okay, with the whiskery fella. And what's the other one?
Sonny00:10:04Sorry? Who is Zory Bliss? I'm pretty sure that's, isn't that Keri Russell's character? Oh, yeah.
JVL00:10:09Okay, that's not the former stormtrooper from the...unimportant.
Sonny00:10:14Maybe it was Finn's love interest in this one.
JVL00:10:20What's important is that there is no, Kylo goes off to search Mustafar. He encounters a Sith holocron, which is a hologram that can actually kill you. The holocron duels with him. His face gets cut up and he is saved by using smelted Mandalorian armor to heal his wounds. There is no, there is no Emperor Palpatine. There is only a hologram of Emperor Palpatine, who is basically giving his last will and testament. And he says, "Hey, if I die. Then I want you, Darth Vader, to go and seek out..." Count Dooku. What's this guy's name? Tor Valum. And Tor Valum is a 7,000 year old ghoul, described as Lovecraftian, and that they've, unimportant. What is, what is important about all of this. I wish everyone could see my eyes right now. Here, no, but here is what is important. This isn't about Star, this isn't about Star Wars. This is about the Star Wars fan base. Because what, what the, the Last Jedi or the Rise of the Jedi, what was the stupid, terrible movie that was, that was done by Rian Johnson? The Last Jedi. The Last Jedi. That movie. That movie is like the election of Donald Trump. Yes. For Star Wars. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It split the fan base in half so that now you have these idiots at, at the A.V. Club saying, "See, see, if, if only we had done this story..." If only we had stayed with Colin Trevorrow. If only we had stayed with Colin Trevorrow's version of the Rian Johnson thing, then everything
Guest00:11:58would have been great when everything they are talking about in this is objectively terrible.
Sonny00:12:02Sounds terrible. All of it sounds terrible.
JVL00:12:04And so this, this is why I think it's, it is so dangerous is because you didn't actually get a clear rejection of the Rian Johnson adventure in Star Wars. You, Disney has, has had him break the fan base. Well... Which if you believe, as I do, that the entire Rian Johnson thing was itself a performance piece, makes it even more amazing.
Sonny00:12:28Yeah. The, I mean, the, the thing about Rise of Skywalker is it is a literal rejection of The Last Jedi though. I mean it, the movie is like from top, from start to finish, from top to bottom, a rejection of The Last Jedi. So you know, I don't, you, you, when you say that if, if we can tread a little, little close to politics here, you mentioned Trump and, and Star Wars and there is a whole book to be written. Written about the ways in which Star Wars kind of got wrapped up in the Donald Trump phenomenon from Rogue One being a huge success because it was a resistance movie. Remember that? Do you remember? I guess that's right. People talking about that? Yeah. And, and it grossed a billion dollars. It grossed, you know, 500 million at home and 500 million abroad and everyone was shocked by this. Everyone was like, how did this movie gross a billion dollars? We assumed it would do, you know, closer to like seven, 800, blah, blah, blah. And then The Last Jedi comes out in the afternoon. But in the aftermath of the 2016 election, it, it, it, I mean, not even really the aftermath, like a year later, like a year after the fact, but it gets, it gets all wrapped up in, uh, identity politics stuff. It gets all wrapped up in like bad fans and toxic internet culture and blah, blah, blah. Uh, and it, it turned, it turned into a, it, it, the, the, the worst part of the reaction to The Last Jedi were all of the fans of this movie. Who would sit around on the internet and say, this movie is so great because it makes all the wrong people so angry. It makes all those bad people who I hate so angry.
JVL00:14:04I feel like I have heard that argument in favor of something else that's indefensible. Exactly.
Sonny00:14:10I could be wrong. So, so the, the, you know, you know, then you get Solo and Solo is, everyone points to Solo like, oh, well it's just a bad movie. It's not, it's just not that good. That's why people didn't go see it. But now this movie is going to gross. You know, $200 million less than The Last Jedi or $150 million less than The Last Jedi. It's clear that something, something bad has happened to Star Wars in, in the very, in the very least at the very least when it comes to the movies. So, you know, Disney needs to figure out what they're doing. They need to figure out how to separate themselves from, again, this like endless culture war nonsense. And it might be too late. It might just, it might just be done.
JVL00:14:50Yeah.
Sonny00:14:51It might, I mean, it might actually, I think, I think Star Wars might be unsalvageable. At this point.
JVL00:14:55Baby Yoda is the only way to do it.
Sonny00:14:56I mean, it literally, but like, think about it. Baby Yoda brings us together.
JVL00:14:58Season two. Baby Yoda, Baby Yoda brings us together. Baby Yoda is who brings us together.
Sonny00:15:01Baby Yoda brings us together because it's a, it's a cute little puppet with no, you know, there's no. No baggage. Ideological or. No, I'm not. Yes.
JVL00:15:11I said that, but I wasn't. Yes. No, totally. Totally. 100%. If the Star Wars universe is going to be saved and brought, have the fan base brought back together. It'll be Baby Yoda who does it.
Sonny00:15:19Maybe that's all I've got. So Baby Yoda is the Christ figure of the Star Wars movie.
Vic00:15:23Well, it was because Werner Herzog was King Herod in that as well.
JVL00:15:28Oh, it must find me. Must find me the baby.
Vic00:15:32I want to be. I want to meet the baby child. Really? Sorry. My voice. It's not. It's more French. Sorry. That wasn't Werner Herzog at all. I know. That's right. I was thinking of the French guy. I was like the friend. Yes, that was. I could do this job. Um, uh, Sonny, uh, what's going on with you? How, how, how do you, how do you enjoy the moving process? That's what I want. Hold on.
JVL00:15:53Hold on. Can I ask you a question? Sonny? Yeah. Commissioning the cult of cats piece. Is that the thing you're most proud of ever? Because rebel or media.com, uh, explaining actual that actually cats is amazing.
Sonny00:16:10Yeah.
JVL00:16:11Well, no, it's, it's not the, and it's so great.
Sonny00:16:14Yeah. I like that piece a lot.
JVL00:16:16It was funny. The people should go to rebel or media.com to read this piece about cats.
Sonny00:16:20If you go to rebel or media.com and you click on the originals tab. It's about halfway or maybe a quarter of the way down. Uh, it, it came out on Monday, I think. Um, I like that piece a lot. It was funny that that guy, so, uh, I, I found that, that author because he, uh, he had been tweeting about S Craig Zahler, who is a director of, uh, several CineState movies, including bone Tomahawk dragged across concrete, uh, brawling cell block 99. Um, and he, he, he like, he said something like, you know, S Craig Zahler's movies are, you know, uh, they're like an experience. I wouldn't recommend them necessarily, but you know, you, you, and like the worldview was awful and blah, blah, blah. But, and I was like, okay, well, you know, that's the, that's the best non-endorsement we've ever gotten. Um, and then we, we got to chatting a little bit and then he had, he had, he tweeted about seeing cats and how it was like a real, uh, seeing it in theaters with people who knew what to expect from it, as opposed to like people who went to it thinking it was gonna be like a family film, um, uh, really had a great time that it was just like, it was like chaos in the theater. And then it was, it was awesome. But the thing that really jumped out at me was his, his description of this like cult phenomenon, uh, in its, in its nascent stage and it's like pre-formalized ritualized version. Cause I don't know if you guys have ever gone to like a Rocky Horror Picture Show, midnight screening, but they're, they're kind of miserable. And not just because it's like, I should have been in bed two hours ago, uh, unless you're dressed up and you go and cosplay, but this is the thing is that like it, it is only really fun for the initiated. And everybody who goes to it and kind of like looks at it from the outside feels excluded. And then this is, I think, uh, I think the thing I like most about his piece was talking about this idea of a cult film and it's in its pre-ritual phase and like warning against letting that happen. Let it, let it continue to be this kind of like outlaw, uh, you know, cinema, outlaw cinema. Exactly. So, uh, I, I did like, I liked that piece a lot. I hope people enjoyed it. It's great. I was a little worried that, you know, people would come to our site expecting like the, the outlaw Verne pieces on like John Woo and you know, the pieces, uh, on Clint Eastwood movies and stuff. So I was, I was a little bit worried that people would read the, the in defense of the, the like basically gay camp of cats, uh, and get turned off, but if people like to seem to like it, so I'm, I'm, it's a great piece. How could people subscribe to rebel or media dot go to rebel or media.com. There's a little sign up tab in the right, right hand corner. If you use the code sub codes, use the code sub beacon. That's two words. I'll cap sub beacon. Yeah. At rebel or media.com you can save $3 on a subscription.
Vic00:18:55Hopefully somebody was just asking me about rebel and I said, it's fantastic. I don't read myself, but if you go to rebel or.com, that's good. Thank you. Yeah. Sonny.
Sonny00:19:07Are you, how's the countdown to the big move? Fine. Moving like a week, uh, or eight days, I guess from today, I've never moved for, I mean,
Vic00:19:13I've moved from apartment to apartment to house. I've never moved from a house to house yet. And I, the stuff that you collect, you think you always think, oh man. Oh man. This is like when you move from an apartment to somewhere, move from a house to another house.
Sonny00:19:26I mean, it just, it's like one small example. I now have an entire Tupperware tub of sweaters.
JVL00:19:31Hmm. Do you still need them?
Sonny00:19:33Just, just a whole Tupperware tub.
JVL00:19:34Yeah.
Sonny00:19:35Yeah.
JVL00:19:36Yeah. A Tupperware where you just pack in the sweaters. Are you taking this as an, uh, as an, uh, an opportunity to simply throw away or just
Sonny00:19:42leave things? I have thrown away so many things.
JVL00:19:44I mean, I. Because I would be tempted to just confine myself to like three boxes. I would.
Sonny00:19:48I mean, it's.
JVL00:19:49And start anew. Yeah.
Sonny00:19:51It, that's, I am not tempted like that, but I have probably thrown away a thousand pounds of just like pure weight. Like every. I wonder. Physically as well. I wonder. Did you get a dumpster? I wonder what the garbage men think when they pull up to my house. For the last month and every, every, every, you know, Monday or every Tuesday and Friday, there's like six giant black garbage bags full of like paint cans, for instance. Yes.
JVL00:20:14I don't know.
Sonny00:20:15You're not supposed to throw away. I know. Garbage. No, no, it's fine. It's fine. It's not water-based. Mm-hmm. Okay. I'm pretty sure it's fine. Well. I've thrown away zero of those for the record. No, no, I bet like, I, no, I looked up. You don't throw away your batteries either.
JVL00:20:30You've been putting those into the battery recycling.
Sonny00:20:32Oh yeah. It's a, there's a, there's a recycling for electronics, cell phones and that sort of thing. No, I looked it up out in Alexandria. It's fine.
JVL00:20:39So long as it's not oil-based paint.
Vic00:20:40Okay. So. I, I just want to remind, as we did last week in the event, it happens during this recording that there is construction going on on this floor. Did you see the workers?
JVL00:20:49Did you smell it?
Vic00:20:50I smelled something.
JVL00:20:51I believe they are putting down carpet. Are they smelting? No. I think. It's a very distinct smell. That smell is the epoxy that they're using. Yeah. That's what it is. Not epoxy. But the thing is when they lay it out. The carpet glue that they lay out. Right. So sometimes you might hear some. Either that or they're all high over there. Yes.
Vic00:21:07And the guys over there smoking weed. Could be both. It could be both. But our big concern, it's some sort of consulting company. We don't know what. Maybe it's Arthur Anderson. I'm not sure.
JVL00:21:15That's when we first moved it to. That's an old joke. The standard.
Vic00:21:19That's an old joke. It was like 500 or whatever. And it became that other one, not Oracle, but one of these other companies after that. Our big concern here. Bathroom space. Yes. Right.
JVL00:21:33At the moment. It's like they're adding 10,000 square feet of office space next to you.
Vic00:21:36Yeah. How many people are going to be there? Because our current bathroom is two.
Sonny00:21:402,001 urinals?
Vic00:21:41Yeah. Two urinals. Two urinals. Two toilets. Oh yeah. Which already, just for the Free Beacon men alone, are always around the clock. That is. Yeah.
JVL00:21:50They have 40 dudes. What is your contingency plan? The floor underneath you?
Vic00:21:54There are people down there too. I don't know. Everyone's talking about it. And I'm like, you know what? If they say, oh, everything's fine. We're just going to have, we don't really need, you don't really have everyone all at the same time. But let me tell you something. When you got to go, you got to go. So I give it about a week before the whole place starts smelling like rotting corpses. Speaking of rotting corpses, over the weekend, 1917 took the top spot at the box office with $37 million. Followed by Star Wars, The Rise of Skywalker with 15.2 million. And in third place, Jumanji, the next level with 14 million box office thoughts or just get right to it.
Sonny00:22:32You know, Jumanji really has hung around.
Vic00:22:34I don't understand this. I know. I don't understand because I have zero desire to see any of them.
Sonny00:22:39I, uh, you know, I was just thinking about this.
Vic00:22:41I barely got through the first one, although I like David Alan Greer.
Sonny00:22:44The, uh, what is the, what's the, what's, uh, so the, the multiple on this is almost almost, it's almost five right now. I mean, it opened at almost, it opened at almost six million, $60 million, but, but the, and the first one did a multiple of like 12 or something. It was like, it was insane. Uh, I don't, I don't, I don't entirely get it, but I was, you know, the first one, the first one I enjoyed, I like, but this, I just like, I have no Karen Gillan.
Vic00:23:10I, you know what, you know what I was wondering also, is this funny before the next level came out? I was, I, for whatever reason was thinking, whatever happened to Jack Black? You know, where is he? You know, what is he? Of course, he's a Juwaji. The next, I guess, I'm sure that check takes care of things and maybe he's got points and that's it. You don't have, he doesn't have to work, but that's movies like that. I think they just, man, it's just a money machine. It is. Uh, but we are talking about the number one movie at the box office, I think rightfully so. 1917. Uh, Sonny, uh, do you want to give a big boy review?
JVL00:23:44Oh, before you start Sonny, if you troll me on this movie, I'm going to kill you. Way back for Scorsese back in 2016. Don't, don't, don't do this. Don't make this a work.
Sonny00:23:56Okay.
JVL00:23:571970. Be, be your real actual self. Don't pose on this.
Sonny00:24:01Be real. Because I can't handle that today with this movie. 1917 is the 17th film in the 19 franchise. Wow. No, I, uh, so 1917 is a, uh, is a gimmick. It's a gimmick movie. It's a gimmick movie. It's a movie. The essence of the movie, uh, from a technical perspective is that it is supposed to look like one shot. It really, it's supposed to look like two shots, um, because there's a, there's a blackout in the middle. Um, uh, but basically it's supposed to look like one long shot, all, uh, all, all one take put together by the director and the cinematographer and, and the actors, uh, to immerse you in the reality, the brutal realities of the first world war, trench warfare, no man's land, that sort of thing. It is directed by Sam Mendes, who is the, uh, who, who is his, I, I, I, I guess one of our, like, better, I don't know, I, I can't tell if he's overrated or underrated. I'm not, I'm not actually a hundred percent sure. Cause like, I don't like American beauty that much, but road to perdition is great. I love Skyfall. He did, he did a couple of pretty solid James Bond movies, Skyfall inspector, those are
JVL00:25:15the two worst movies of the bond of the Daniel Craig. No way.
Sonny00:25:19No, there's no way. There's no way. Quantum of solace. There's no way they're worse than quantum of solace. 10 times better than either. You're insane. You're high. You're a, you're a high, you're a high person.
Vic00:25:27It's crazy. It's crazy.
Sonny00:25:29Refined. And I love the Javier Bardem. Anyway. So I, I like the, so anyway, it's a gimmick movie. The movie is a gimmick. It is, it is based on, uh, kind of this technical idea first and foremost. Um, that said, I think it more or less works for normal people. This is, so I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I want to, I want to say two things about this. I think the gimmick works for normal people. I think that it immerses them in the movie. I think they are like, I, from, from what I have heard from everyone who has seen it, they loved it. They found it super tense and, uh, really, really gripping and engaging. Um, and, uh, the, the one shot aspect of it does what it is supposed to do. It immerses them in the movie and it, it, it ratchets up the tension throughout. Um, I watched it and I found myself knowing what the gimmick was looking for the seams the whole time. Yeah. I watched the movie.
Vic00:26:20Me too.
Sonny00:26:21I, that's true. Right. So I watched the movie and every time the camera started moving, I was like, oh, great. Is it going to swoop around somebody's back so they can put a cut here? And, and sure enough, like nine times out of 10, that's, that's exactly what was, what was happening. Uh, you know, it, it, it is this as a result for me personally, and I think, I think other people who are kind of aware of some of the filmmaking tricks here, um, it has the opposite effect of immersing people in the movie. It pulls them out of it and takes them because you're just, you're, you're obsessed with trying to find the seams because it's impressive because like, you're like, okay, if you've done this, if you were touting this as a technical Marvel, then I'm going to look for the holes in the thing. Now, this is a personal problem. This is not a, this is, this is a, you know, a film critic thing, uh, and it is, I don't think you can hold it against the movie exactly. Cause again, I think it works for most people. The movie itself, uh, is, is very good. It's very, it's, it is well acted, uh, it has, it has these kind of weird cameos throughout that give it a video game quality, um, combined with the like, combined with the, like over the shot, uh, over the shoulder shots, walking through the trenches, um, and the kind of the tracking shots in like no man's land where you're, where you're moving almost first person perspective through the, uh, through, through the wasteland with these guys, um, you feel like a character on the screen with them. And again, it creates this kind of video game reality to it. I, I, and like I said, every time you get to one of these, uh, one of these, um, famous character actors who delivers an exposition dump, it's like, okay, this is the cut scene in the video game where we, we sit here and we figure out what the next level is while the thing is loading, figure out what the next mission is. And it, it, the final boss of course has been at a Cumberbatch, uh, and he's, he's slain with rhetoric. That's how you, that's how you defeat the final boss in this video game movie. What a cynical way.
JVL00:28:17I, uh, but I liked it.
Sonny00:28:19I like it. I, it's a fine movie. I think it's, it's, it, I am, I like, I enjoyed it. I thought the acting was very good. I thought the, I thought the gimmick was very good. I thought, uh, Roger Deakins, uh, does a great job with cinematography. I hope he wins. I hope he wins. I think there's a decent chance he'll win because it's not just the, uh, it's not just the, the, the gimmick working. Um, it's not just him getting the gimmick to, to, you know, uh, hold up for, for regular people, uh, in this gimmick movie. Um, uh, but it's, but it, uh, but it, it is also the way he lights it. There's, there's a great, my favorite sequence in the movie is after, uh, one of the characters wakes up from getting knocked down unconscious and he like kind of stumbles out into hell basically. It is, he's in a burned out, uh, blown up city with ruined buildings everywhere with flares going over on top and it creates this combination of like incredibly harsh white light with incredibly dark blacks, uh, from the shadows. And it's just-
Vic00:29:16That's how I feel when I wake up from my blackness. I'm like, where am I? What happened?
Sonny00:29:20I was at Shelly's last night. Uh, and, uh, yeah, so I, I liked, I like, I like, I like this movie a great deal. I, it, it's, it, it's perfectly fine.
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JVL00:32:56Wow, that's a long read. How is how is lunch? You haven't read a book that long since college.
Sonny00:33:03Burn. JVL, how much did you like the gimmick movie?
JVL00:33:08Victorino.
Sonny00:33:11Yes, JVL.
JVL00:33:13What did you think?
Vic00:33:15A plus plus. I loved it. I do agree with Sonny that I was trying to catch where they would have had a break and they have the blackout scene, obviously, so they could all take a break. But before that, I didn't see it. So, man, it must have been at least an hour to an hour and a half of no breaks. And they filmed it continuously, which must have made for a very short movie to actually film. Yeah.
JVL00:33:39Since it was a whole thing in three days. That's it.
Vic00:33:41That was it. And it's I liked it in so many ways. Obviously, the the duration in the quadrants, if you will. Obviously, there's no nudity, but the duration there could have been there could have been a there could have been a nudity scene in that moment with the woman and the baby and the whole thing. That's your opportunity. If this was like 1983, that's where it had been.
JVL00:34:05Scarlett Johansson. And she had been topless.
Vic00:34:07This would have been the greatest movie for Victorino Matus ever.
JVL00:34:10Thank you for that visual. Hold on. I'm coming to now.
Vic00:34:15So duration was great. It's weird if you don't say to the the violence is not a lot per se, and it's not like graphic per se, but it is there. And in some ways, obviously, the violence is graphic again, rotting corpses, bloated corpses. It's not pretty.
JVL00:34:38The tongue on that one bloated. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Vic00:34:41No, I mean, it's it's not pleasant. And you see it looks real. So there was that. And then, of course, plot. I found it very obviously easy to understand.
JVL00:34:49You were able to understand.
Vic00:34:50Oh, they got to rescue this unit and save those. They got to prevent them from going to charge because. But one of the other things about plot that I mean, if you may find yourself wondering, for example, when, where does this take place and what's happening in that sense? So, I mean, if you're familiar with World War One, obviously, that helps. And it does tell you in the beginning that it's France or Belgium. Spring of 1917. I think we're in. I think we're in France. But they talk. About the Germans. Oh, we think they're retreating, but they're not retreating, which, of course, they were not retreating. Please. What they did was they pulled back to the Hindenburg line, right? The Hindenburg line. And so what this puts you in is between the second and the third battles of Ypres or what the Brits call wipers, right? Wipers. So this is before Passiendela. And so that's where the timeline is. But again, I really, really enjoyed it. They got such great English mugs. The Tom and Baratheon and George McKay. Charles Dean Chapman or Dean Charles Chapman. I thought they were great. Yes, there is that cameo element that is also distracting, as Sonny points out. But I just thought it was I just thought it was really still amazing. JVL.
JVL00:36:05Boys, what format did you see 1917 on?
Vic00:36:10Dolby Atmos.
JVL00:36:12Victorino?
Vic00:36:12I think it was just regular Dolby. Regular? Yeah. Not Atmos. It was at Courthouse.
JVL00:36:17I recommend that people see this on the largest possible screen. Like IMAX?
Vic00:36:23Would you agree?
JVL00:36:24Is this on IMAX? I don't know if it's on IMAX. I saw it on the Alamo's Big Show screen, which I believe is their non-branded version of Dolby Atmos. Although maybe it's actually their branded version of Dolby Atmos, but an enormous screen. So this is the first time in maybe like 14 years. That I have sat in a theater and felt as though I was in the presence of cinematic greatness as it was unspooling in front of me. Did you have basically that? I mean, you think everything's great. It's been the first time in 14 years. But did you feel?
Vic00:37:05But yeah, as opposed to like, oh, I like Death Wish great. This is a special film. Yeah. No, there's no question. If this doesn't win Best Picture. I can see why it did. Although I think Sonny's guess. Is going to be that it won because people fell for the gimmick. But I still think it's an amazing feat. I think you could certainly Roger Deakins should get the Oscar.
Sonny00:37:26I think you could. I would not be offended if this movie won Best Picture because I do think it is a it is a grand technical achievement. It tells an interesting story. It's doing it's doing some interesting things in the world of filmmaking. I don't think it's better than Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
JVL00:37:44I love Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
Vic00:37:47Apple's or is very hard to compare. This is I love them both.
JVL00:37:50This is. Just different. I mean, this is it's a very different movie cinema and an achievement.
Vic00:37:58I wouldn't mind if 1917 loses to Once Upon a Time in America and in Hollywood. I'd be fine with that. I'd also be fine if they lost the Oscar to Little Women.
JVL00:38:08But so can we talk in spoilers? Can we have a spoiler reaction to that? He's he's writing. He's like, look, Sonny. Now.
Sonny00:38:17By the way, by the way, by the way, I'm trying to look something up.
Vic00:38:20By the way, this is what it's going to be like when he says it's going to be the same effect. See, the dynamic is perfectly fine.
Sonny00:38:26I. I'm sorry, I'm trying to look something up here. The the. I understand what you're saying, that it is a grand cinematic achievement. Kind of. I also think it is too gimmicky to to work as a true achievement. You know what I mean? I mean, like people have done one take movies before. OK, people. People have.
JVL00:38:48Let me cut you off right there.
Sonny00:38:49OK.
JVL00:38:51The elevator pitch for this is saving Private Ryan meets the nick of time meets rope. OK. Correct. The nick of time. Remember the nick of time? Is that with Johnny Depp? Yeah, Johnny Depp with the it's in real time. There's only 90 minutes and there's a countdown timer running in the corner of it. And the whole movie takes place. You have 90 minutes to do this thing. And the whole. Do you remember that?
Sonny00:39:12Vaguely.
JVL00:39:13Wow. So, yes, it is a gimmick, but it is such a. Subtle gimmick that I have to guess that some very large percentage of the audience, if they had not been told that it was all in one take, would leave the theater not realizing it was all in one take.
Vic00:39:30Oh, yeah. If I went with my father.
JVL00:39:32Not in one day, but they would not. You know, one shot in one shot. I believe most people will walk out of the theater not even understanding, which is to me means that the gimmick is being done in service of the storytelling. You know, and not sort of as a gimmick. Hey. We can do this. So let's try.
Vic00:39:48If I went with when I probably go again, if I go with my father-in-law, I guarantee if I don't point it out, he's not going to notice that.
Sonny00:39:55The problem. I mean, you say it's in service of the storytelling. The problem with the storytelling is, again, that it is very video game like this is not this is not a particularly interesting story. It is compelling in the sense that we hope that they succeed on their in their mission to save this guy's brother. Right. I mean, like the the the the movie cheats because it tells us, you know, the the the the the only reason we should care about this this mission succeeding is because one of the guy's brothers is going to be in the attack. It's you know, they he's got a he's got to make it make it across no man's land to save his brother, which is fine. It's fine. But it's basic. It's very it's very. I yawn because my time is a Victorino.
Vic00:40:38It's yeah, it's like a 930. Go f**k yourself, son.
JVL00:40:42This.
Sonny00:40:46OK.
JVL00:40:47Now, let's let's take this one by one.
Sonny00:40:49I like the movie. I like the movie. It's it is very good.
JVL00:40:53This is what I get for doing this Scorsese troll job. Yes, you have finally genuine. You have finally refilled it.
Sonny00:40:59But it's not it's not a troll. This is what I've been saying this. I've been saying this since the movie came out. My I wrote a Letterboxd review like four weeks ago when I saw it at a press screening. And this is this is how I felt about it the whole time. It is not video game.
JVL00:41:13May I explain to you why the encounters? With the officers are shot in the way they are with stars there. It's because in World War One, the officer corps was all the aristocrats, right? The Tommies were the nobodies and the officer corps were not professional soldiers. They were just like, you know, Lord Templeton over there. You're now a lieutenant. You know, you're now a general. And they just threw these utterly incompetent into command. And so you saw you got like you in the scene by the guy who's like, just move that tree off the road. Come on, you. Why? Why aren't you working harder? Which is what much of the British officer corps in World War One was like. And honestly, 1917 and Dunkirk are bookend movies and they don't intend to. But they the two films are talking back and forth to one another about the British experience in the two most consequential events of the last century, which. Between the two of them ended the British Empire and changed the modern world as we know it and changed everything right by the time by the time you get to World War Two, that class of officers no longer exists in Britain because they're all dead. All those guys died or aged out. And so by the time you get to Dunkirk, you have professional officers for the most part in control. And so that's why the guys you see in Dunkirk. Managing decline, right? Managing decline. But those guys know what they're doing in a way that these are just dilettantes in World War One. And but here's the thing is you're seeing a you are you are being shown why the back of liberalism was broken by the Great War. This is I genuinely believe that World War One is vastly underappreciated as the most important thing that happened in the last century. People fixate on World War Two because it came second and it's more cinematic and very easy to understand about good and evil. But World War One is what broke liberalism, right? If you read any of the post Great War writings, people use. I mean, we think we have a bad now, but after World War One, people thought the world was ending. And the reason they were so open to authoritarian ideology is because they were like, we'll try anything because this thing we were doing didn't work.
Sonny00:43:36Look what it produced. Can I can I interject here and say that I understand the argument that you are making, but that it is wrong because all of the all of the big stars. Are actually very competent in this movie. You're you're arguing you're you're arguing you're arguing that the we need the Andrew Scott is not we need we need we need we need these stars to demonstrate the competency of the earth to demonstrate that these are dilettante ish aristocrats. They're different. They are a very different class of human being. Except except. So who do we have? Colin Firth at the beginning, who is obviously competent and well, we're so well respected by everyone and sends them on the correct. Mission. We have we have we have we have we have more officers. I don't I don't I don't remember who Andrew Scott is. Who is Andrew Scott? Who is he?
JVL00:44:24Dr. Moriarty is Moriarty from Sherlock is where you would know him from. He is the lieutenant who is waiting at the end of the line for no man's land to send them over the top. Okay. Who doesn't even know what day it is.
Sonny00:44:34Okay, fine. He's he's a match. Fine. But then you have you have I didn't even like mark him as an officer. I thought he was like a corporal or something. I like had no idea what was going on there. The the you have Mark Strong. Who is competent and decent was a captain captain who's competent and decent and then you have and then and then at the end of the movie you have Benedict Cumberbatch who is also competent and turns out to be decent who when he is told that the the mission will be result in all of his men dying pulls back. This is not this is not paths of glory, but where where you have where you have a officer core that is deeply corrupt and only worried about covering their own tails and is perfectly happy to sacrifice however many people. However many of their underlings it takes to to get the thing done so like I understand what you I get the point that you are making but your point is wrong and it once again these these these characters at at the best they serve as chapter markers where you can say okay this is the Benedict Cumberbatch portion of the film this is the Mark Strong portion of the film this is it was wasn't one of the Game of Thrones guys there at the end was that yes that's right that would be the the king of the
Vic00:45:46north yeah who was killed in the wedding there's the here's the brother yeah here Madden Madden yeah so I I mean like I you know your your your theory is interesting it's just wrong I I don't even in this particular film except for what you when I was when I when I when I when I think of when I think of what you're describing JVL actually the film that comes to my mind is Gallipoli yeah the whistleblower you know and he's got his pistol out and if you don't charge he'll shoot you and of course that everybody gets moved out but Sonny's talking specifically about this movie in this movie okay not
Sonny00:46:24the grand scheme they function as exposition dumps that's help you mark your way through the movie they are 100% video game creations Victorino yes yes
JVL00:46:38yes JVL would you like to defend your
Vic00:46:40people but because the Filipinos were
JVL00:46:43not involved in this war 1917 is basically a hate crime against Germans yeah I mean you basically see really the pilot and then the kid who he's trying to save his life so he doesn't have to kill him like he yells out that I'm shooting him and he's like just be quiet and I'll let you go and the kid starts yelling but the
Vic00:47:04Germans are bad people you know there are actual books in my office that talk about the war at the atrocities that the Germans committed in World War one and it's a very under covered subject because everybody for obvious reasons has a lot more to write about with World War two but it's the Hun what is it about the Bosch well I mean it's you know I mean that was that was from the that was that was a decision from the top down I mean it's you know I mean it was the Kaiser's decision what is needed to do to to allow not obviously he's not a great military leader but to allow you know the the you boating if you will of civilian and none ally you know shipping so that going after the US for example and bringing the US into the war or you know the the scorched-earth policy but you know they want a scorched-earth policy is and what they wanted to do is leave the people the quote liberators if they're moving in to leave them with as many mouths to feed as they say you know one of my
JVL00:48:07favorite details in this is the difference between the British trenches and the German trenches yes we're ever in
Sonny00:48:15the German train the British church
JVL00:48:16everything is like my son made my son observe that German trenches everything
Vic00:48:22is spit spot yeah the word is the word is organized here it's organized
JVL00:48:27everything is it right angles yeah there
Vic00:48:29I know yes exactly the the sandbags are
JVL00:48:33stacked exactly staggering yeah you know
Vic00:48:36that that's an interesting observation you know what I had concerns that I guess spoiler alerts at this point no yeah well you know I'm always do I mean well this did the stabbing scene was obviously very moving and powerful the saving private Ryan stabbing scene is still worse sure yeah but again that's because
JVL00:49:00this takes place off camera yeah that's
Vic00:49:01right the camera moves and then moves back as it goes to the well and then it comes back I was thinking about that but it's still and for me it was unexpected but that it gave me some comfort in the sense that having seen all the clips ahead of time from the trailer and the famous scene at the end where he runs through the line as they're charging and I said I haven't seen that scene yet so I'm not worried that he's gonna die you know what I mean so that sort of helps you get through like okay I'm not that nervous about this particular cuz I know he's gonna make it did you guys read the
JVL00:49:31vulture piece about the making yeah cuz it was filled with that farmhouse the the farmhouse yeah is a set they built that thing that there is in the middle of the movie that the two main characters wind up the masonry is amazing a farmhouse in the middle of nowhere sort of you know the outskirts of a village and it's one of these perfect beautiful places they're like wow had location scout find that and they didn't they just made the thing
Sonny00:50:00but they built it in the field it's not like it was on a sound right right only
JVL00:50:05one part of it is on a soundstage they dug nearly a mile of trenches and but they had to calibrate all of that like how much trench to dig by calculating the dialogue so they're like you know so for what if the actors are walking at this pace how far are they gonna be traveling that's how much a lot of work for these actors to there is the weather so whether
Vic00:50:29the weather was a huge factor because as we know it's continuous but as Sonny knows it's not really continuous so they had to you know if they were as ever wherever the secret breaks are they also had to say oh it's too sunny then they can't or it's not you know it's too cloudy you know it had to be so that you're not gonna you ever see a lot of these movies where all of a sudden you turn around and all of a sudden it's raining or it's sunny out and you're like what
JVL00:50:52you know so this here's this line from the vulture piece in one sequence near the end of the film the camera begins on a crane is carried through a battlefield by some grips then gets put on the back of a vehicle at which point the camera operators become extras that's amazing and the the scene immediately following the blackout where he is made which is the only soundstage scene the hell as you described it right where you have a conflagration in the knee in the near distance or the middle distance I guess where a church is being burned and then there are phosphorus flares work to actually magnesium flares that they're using with the shadows then tracking it I think that might be one of the most beautiful scenes I've ever seen put on
Sonny00:51:39film beautiful and harrowing yeah right
JVL00:51:42I mean just as a piece of I honestly I am shocked the same way I'm shocked that Sam Mendes had this had an item in him because I think Jarhead Revolutionary
Sonny00:51:54Road American Beauty I mean Road to Perdition is not a great movie it's an okay movie I like it's good he definitely has some clunkers but he's also I mean again you didn't you don't like Road to Perdition no I like it I just don't
JVL00:52:05think it's great I don't think Skyfall is right I think Skyfall is a middling movie and nothing in his corpus suggested to me that he was capable of making what I think has got to be considered top five war movie all-time easily the best movie of this year if you didn't
Vic00:52:24see you didn't see it here but Sonny rolled rolled his eyes and made up and
Sonny00:52:29again I went I didn't roll my eyes I was just surprised I don't think I I wouldn't I don't think it's that good it's good
JVL00:52:35but it's not that I almost went so I saw this yesterday morning and I almost went back to see it again last night if I hadn't been taping an episode of the JVL show last night I would have gone back to the theater to see it again twice in the same day the other thing I've never done in my life when he
Vic00:52:50finally reaches the line he finally reaches the army you know his objective and those you know you could see where they're dug out right in the ground you notice it that that's all white that's limestone yeah it's limestone because that's through champagne country and I've been through a part of there and when I went to champagne for journalism purposes for journalism and and and you saw the line on these topograph topographical sort of maps of these you know dimensional maps and it shows you where the line had advanced and it had gone back and forth and it ripped up that entire region and so when I see clearly the biggest tragedy of the war there's a lot of vintages lost from 1914 to 19 that's why you have all these MVs after I mean it's like that's always a big deal like oh this is you know whatever vintage after 1918 was the first big one again because all that was gone yeah it was very sad yeah I'm
JVL00:53:42kidding there was worse anyway the way in which both 1917 and 1918 were done Kirk play with the ideas of time and space while also thinking about the British experience in the war I just I will forever think of these two movies as a pair a box set and put together maybe being the best the best two movies about war ever made there are
Vic00:54:08construction noises that I think is the hint that we need to wrap it up I like
Sonny00:54:13I like that I mean I just don't know why you're so worked up I still said I liked the gimmick movie do you
Vic00:54:19ever see all quiet on the Western Front I read it there was a book I actually saw the black and white one from like 1930 and I saw the one for made for TV with Richard Thomas from the Waltons
JVL00:54:31both were actually like better the one
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JVL00:55:18at the live action Sonny is wrong about
Vic00:55:211917 it's the greatest movie ever made and that's all the time we're giving to this episode questions comments complaints compliments tweet us at Sonny Bunch at Victorino Matus again be sure to subscribe to us on iTunes Google Play or Stitcher just type in sub beacon at a podcast we're there leave a review tell your friends until next time
JVL00:55:46I've been on Tim to hooks oh this is waiting what for your outtake what this outtake what you got JVL do I have a
Vic00:55:58surprise for you I'm tingling in March I'm going to be giving a little talk about journalism and such at Georgetown University I'll be look at his face look at his but wait before you kill me
JVL00:56:16wait no no no no wait let's talk about
Vic00:56:18this thank you that's very good very good the Georgetown Review conservative paper invited me and I believe the name is Jacob Adams yeah you know I wear it every day as you know just walk over to the hilltop he said could you also invite Jonathan last JVL would you like to come give a talk at
Sonny00:56:44Georgetown wait wait before you answer I just need to I actually have an announcement as well the Georgetown Film School has asked me to come give a lecture on 1917 and the aesthetics of using video game technology in in real world filmmaking I I don't have an extra spot on the stage but you can sit in the audience if you want I'm not sure I'd be admitted I'm sure it'd be fine

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